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Lekker

Joined: 09 Feb 2008 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 5:15 am Post subject: Pee Bo Kwhaaaat are you doing here whitey? Go elsewhere. |
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I just moved to a new neighborhood. For sometime, I have had some problems with the skin on my feet, I will not go into details.
So I found a local Pi Bo Kwa and walked in with my insurance card. The women at the desk start giggling, tee hee hee, ha ha, blah. I guess to them, I looked like a jack in the box. Then they take my insurance card and stamped it all up and scribbled all over it, then one of them notions me to sit down and wait for the doctor.
I am waiting in the room with 2 women, both who obviously had some kind of reconstructive facial surgery, as well as a really old Hailmony with brown moles all over her face, and a man and his screaming daughter. Then another woman comes out and looks at me, the odd one in the bunch, then looks at them and back at me again. Then she starts bitching about me (I could understand her saying something, questioning why a foreigner was in their office, etc.), whining and moaning then picks up my insurance info, makes a phone call, carries on a conversation about a foreigner and his insurance, then she hangs up and leaves.
A few minutes later, she comes out, calls my name, then I go into the doctor's office. He is a middle aged man, glasses, Republican Comb over hair cut, looks at me like I am some kind of freak, then says "I am sorry, we can not help you here. Go to Yonsei University hospital where they deal with foreigners like yourself. I can not speak English."
I tell him that I can understand Korean. He says again "I am sorry, we can not help you here. I can not speak English."
This was in Hongdae. He was very polite to me, but *beep* that. If this was elsewhere he would have his license taken away for turning someone away because they weren't the same race as every other patient who came in the door. I pay into the system here, I am here legally, I am insured, but I am refused service because I am not Korean?
Needless to say I shook my head at him and said I was sorry to have walked into his office and bothered him on a Saturday morning. I didn't shake his outstretched hand and walked out. As I was walking out, the woman who was fussing before I went in stopped me, and said something to me as in I had to pay something for the consultation or something. I shook my head, took my insurance info back from them, apologized and walked out.
I took a cab to Yonsei University Severance Hospital International Residence Clinic, where I was greeted by a Kyopo from Boston. He was very polite, he was there volunteering on a Saturday morning in the International Clinic. He was very nice to me. Everyone else there was very nice to me as well. Even if they didn't speak English to me, they were still very helpful. If you must know, I had a few plantar warts cryogenically frozen off my feet and now I am in excruciating pain and I can't walk, but it was worth it not having to be disrespected by some as swipe in a white lab coat with a circumcised *beep* for a haircut.
First off, I call BS on the "I can not speak English" nonsense. Because he told me in perfect English that he was not capable of speaking English. Secondly, he is a licensed medical practitioner. Every single doctor I have met in Seoul speaks and understands English because they have all studied out of western textbooks in order to obtain a license to practice westernized medicine.
So there you have it. I don't think it was a "I can't speak your language so I am sorry that I can not help you" kind of thing.
It was more of a "I can speak your language but I am automatically going to assume you can't speak mine, as well as I can't be Fn assed to get off my lazy ass to help you. Additionally you aren't one of us, so I will not be assisting you" kind of thing.
I don't expect to walk in and have everyone speak to me in English. I don't expect people to bend over backwards to help me. I know I am not superior than the rest of the people here. I know that I am not Korean, and I will accept that I am not the doctors number one priority, but I am a human being. Why is it like this here? This happened in Southern California when a man walked his mother into an Emergency Room because of heart palpitations and because she could only speak Spanish and very little English, the doctors and nurses on duty refused to help her. She ended up falling on the floor. They were still walking over her as her son was on the floor with her calling out for someone to help her. Nobody would lift a finger. A few moments passed and she was pronounced dead. The hospital was shut down shortly afterwards.
Nothing here is going to change. This is why Korea, as well equipped with well educated scientists, doctors, and engineers as it is, maybe even over saturated, will forever remain second class in the global scheme of things. As much as I like it here, this is NOT the hub of Asia. |
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Stormy

Joined: 10 Jan 2008 Location: Here & there
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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 5:22 am Post subject: |
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I understand you being pissed. If that happened to me I'd not be a happy chappy. But I've been to the local hospital in my region of Korea once & they could not have been more helpful if they'd tried. Plus the doctor spoke excellent English & looked like a god.
One experience does not a gospel make. |
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crescent

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Location: yes.
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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 5:26 am Post subject: |
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I'd just like to know why dermatology clinics are almost always partnered with urology clinics. |
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Kimchi Cha Cha

Joined: 15 May 2003 Location: was Suncheon, now Brisbane
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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 6:01 am Post subject: |
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That sucks. I guess I've been really lucky here going to doctors, clinics and medical centers, I often get the tee-hee-hee routine from the girls on the counter or nurses or folk around the place, but I can't think of a bad experience I've had with a doctor here. They've always been polite, helpful and concerned about my condition at the time. That said, I've experienced some rude service at various drugstores from time to time, for whatever reason.
Experiences like that can be really draining and make you angry. It was good that experience at Yonsei was much better than what you experienced at the first place. |
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cornholio1
Joined: 26 Apr 2007 Location: Bupyeong
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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 6:38 am Post subject: pebo kwhaaaat are you doing here |
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Hey Man similar experience here. The only difference was it wasn't plantars warts on my feet it was something different on something else if you know what I mean. Same dirty looks and all. The problem is not that that they can't speak English but they don't treat skin problems persay, the plantars wart thing would have been just as easily removed at a beauty shop. the problem is that with most pibu clinics is that they are for asthetics only in other words just to make people look better. In a big university hospital they practice real medicine. therefore they help you. also the thing he was saying sounds more like a poorly worded excuse for" I am sorry I cannot help you I would like to but I don't know how to explain that I am not a real doctor anymore to you so, sorry and thank you for your patronage please pay my beautiful young assistant (with whom I am cheating on my wife) on your way out. |
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Bibbitybop

Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 9:04 am Post subject: |
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I took a cab to Yonsei University Severance Hospital International Residence Clinic |
Should've been your first decision.
Fuck Korean doctors. |
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jackson7
Joined: 01 Aug 2006 Location: Kim Jong Il's Future Fireball
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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 9:29 am Post subject: |
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To answer the whole "why are urology clinics tagged onto dermatology clinics" question...
A Korean friend of mine is a professor at a medical university, and I asked her the same question. She said that everyone wants to be in dermatology, and it is extremely profitable in Korea (thank God for vanity), but it takes a client base to stay in business. She said most doctors specialize in both, and then drop the urology part of their practice after they are profitable. I imagine the massage parlors are enough to keep the urology part of the practice going. I had to go to one last year for being stupid with a K-girlfriend of mine (read old posts) and saw a bunch of K-soldiers in the waiting room. I imagine it WASN'T for a skin problem. |
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smedini

Joined: 02 Apr 2008
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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 10:26 am Post subject: Re: Pee Bo Kwhaaaat are you doing here whitey? Go elsewhere |
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Lekker wrote: |
Why is it like this here? This happened in Southern California when a man walked his mother into an Emergency Room because of heart palpitations and because she could only speak Spanish and very little English, the doctors and nurses on duty refused to help her. She ended up falling on the floor. They were still walking over her as her son was on the floor with her calling out for someone to help her. Nobody would lift a finger. A few moments passed and she was pronounced dead. The hospital was shut down shortly afterwards.
Nothing here is going to change. This is why Korea, as well equipped with well educated scientists, doctors, and engineers as it is, maybe even over saturated, will forever remain second class in the global scheme of things. As much as I like it here, this is NOT the hub of Asia. |
Hey...you might want to call me a Korea apologist or whatever, but I'm neither one nor a hater. But I gotta call bitter when I see it. Sure, it was a sh*tty way for them to treat you and I don't doubt that you were treated that way because you were a foreigner. But like stormy said, one episode doesn't a gospel make. And besides...read your own post. You said why does this happen HERE and then said the same thing happened in the US and then said this is why Korea will always be second class...where is the US then? The "greatest country on earth" with all it's wisdom and riches and something as pedestrian and ignorant as can happen in South Korea has happened there. The horror! Why aren't your bitches equally caustic for the US? Indeed, where are the bitches about the US?
~smedini |
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Imbroglio

Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Location: Behind the wheel of a large automobile
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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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OP, don't tell me you actually paid that consultation fee.
Please tell me you didn't pay them.
Please. |
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RJjr

Joined: 17 Aug 2006 Location: Turning on a Lamp
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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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jackson7 wrote: |
She said most doctors specialize in both, and then drop the urology part of their practice after they are profitable. I imagine the massage parlors are enough to keep the urology part of the practice going. I had to go to one last year for being stupid with a K-girlfriend of mine (read old posts) and saw a bunch of K-soldiers in the waiting room. I imagine it WASN'T for a skin problem. |
Does insurance cover the happy ending? |
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Atavistic
Joined: 22 May 2006 Location: How totally stupid that Korean doesn't show in this area.
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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 2:47 pm Post subject: Re: Pee Bo Kwhaaaat are you doing here whitey? Go elsewhere |
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Lekker wrote: |
First off, I call BS on the "I can not speak English" nonsense. Because he told me in perfect English that he was not capable of speaking English. |
Dude, the guy was a total ass and I'm sorry for your experience. But this part? Come on... |
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Lekker

Joined: 09 Feb 2008 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 3:06 pm Post subject: Re: Pee Bo Kwhaaaat are you doing here whitey? Go elsewhere |
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smedini wrote: |
Lekker wrote: |
Why is it like this here? This happened in Southern California when a man walked his mother into an Emergency Room because of heart palpitations and because she could only speak Spanish and very little English, the doctors and nurses on duty refused to help her. She ended up falling on the floor. They were still walking over her as her son was on the floor with her calling out for someone to help her. Nobody would lift a finger. A few moments passed and she was pronounced dead. The hospital was shut down shortly afterwards.
Nothing here is going to change. This is why Korea, as well equipped with well educated scientists, doctors, and engineers as it is, maybe even over saturated, will forever remain second class in the global scheme of things. As much as I like it here, this is NOT the hub of Asia. |
Hey...you might want to call me a Korea apologist or whatever, but I'm neither one nor a hater. But I gotta call bitter when I see it. Sure, it was a sh*tty way for them to treat you and I don't doubt that you were treated that way because you were a foreigner. But like stormy said, one episode doesn't a gospel make. And besides...read your own post. You said why does this happen HERE and then said the same thing happened in the US and then said this is why Korea will always be second class...where is the US then? The "greatest country on earth" with all it's wisdom and riches and something as pedestrian and ignorant as can happen in South Korea has happened there. The horror! Why aren't your bitches equally caustic for the US? Indeed, where are the bitches about the US?
~smedini |
Fair enough. But think about it. It does happen in the U.S. and when it does, doctors fall into a pit of deep shit, but either they are covered because they are already paying 1/3 of their salary into insurance fees to cover their own ass, or they are forced to pay hefty fines, close up shop, etc. etc. etc. But it's okay because they can go to another state and continue their profession.
Here, they just pull this shit and get away with it. Nobody will step in and intervene on behalf of the foreigner because the foreigner is a foreigner. The circumcised penus hair cut doctor will stay in business, his ladies at the desk will still whine and moan, and things will continue as normal.
And no, indeed not, the U.S. is not the greatest country on Earth. Far from it. Far far far far my friend. And no, I didn't pay the women on the way out. They tried effortlessly to hold my insurance card ransom. I reached across the counter, picked it up and walked out. |
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Imbroglio

Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Location: Behind the wheel of a large automobile
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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you for not paying them. THANK YOU |
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Hootsmon
Joined: 22 Jan 2008
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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 5:21 pm Post subject: Re: Pee Bo Kwhaaaat are you doing here whitey? Go elsewhere |
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smedini wrote: |
Indeed, where are the bitches about the US? |
Probably on a forum about living in the US... |
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crescent

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Location: yes.
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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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jackson7 wrote: |
To answer the whole "why are urology clinics tagged onto dermatology clinics" question...
A Korean friend of mine is a professor at a medical university, and I asked her the same question. She said that everyone wants to be in dermatology, and it is extremely profitable in Korea (thank God for vanity), but it takes a client base to stay in business. She said most doctors specialize in both, and then drop the urology part of their practice after they are profitable. I imagine the massage parlors are enough to keep the urology part of the practice going. I had to go to one last year for being stupid with a K-girlfriend of mine (read old posts) and saw a bunch of K-soldiers in the waiting room. I imagine it WASN'T for a skin problem. |
But, but, but.
How does one decide on UROLOGY as an add on??? There are a myriad of other specializations and it's usually urology.
As a skin care customer, i'd worry about where the doctor last had his hands. |
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