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sadsac



Joined: 22 Dec 2003
Location: Gwangwang

PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 4:23 pm    Post subject: Where have all the teachers gone? Reply with quote

Been looking for a new teacher now for 2 months and there doesn't seem to be anybody out there. Has Korea reverted to the bad old days where people just don't want to come anymore or has this whole sealed transcripts garbage been the final nail in the coffin for ESL in Korea? Oh for the heady days of more teachers than jobs. Smile
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inkoreaforgood



Joined: 15 Dec 2003
Location: Inchon

PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Currently, there is a special crack team of CIA agents who intercept potential English teachers on their way to Korea, and 'convince' them that other locales would be more appropiate. Many are diverted to China and other places in Asia, with a few never leaving their home country. My understanding that the next step in this covert war is bringing the fight here.




Laughing Actually, I think more people are getting the word about Korea via the internet, and deciding that it's not worth coming here. Good for us old hands, I'd say!!
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schwa



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap

PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glancing at the jobs board, theres a lot of stuff on offer. A fair number of those jobs look same-same or worse. Maybe jobseekers are becoming more selective. Maybe your school needs to up its ante.
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's the winter term for schools in the West. Once the end of summer comes and the new crop of graduates starts looking for work there will be a flood of 'fresh meat' heading this way. This has been the cycle every year since I got here.
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UncleAlex



Joined: 04 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 7:42 pm    Post subject: CIA? Reply with quote

Sadsac, I've heard about the CIA involvement,too.
Apparently, all the ideal candidates who schools prefer
to hire are being recruited by the CIA as vital assests
in the mule operations into North Korea. The pay is much
better and work hours are more flexible;one does not have
to face emotionally charged children in the spy business nor
worry about being paid on time. And,of course, the CIA is not
so fastidious about sealed transcripts. There is no Letter of
Release to haggle over, but one has to worry about
quitting the agency under pain of death. Cool
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the phrase is 'extreme prejudice'.
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sadsac



Joined: 22 Dec 2003
Location: Gwangwang

PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys, I truly appreciate the humor. Our offering is not to shabby and the hagwon is one of the better ones. Maybe if I offer the CIA hit team a bribe they will send one my way. Smile
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bellum99



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: don't need to know

PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you offering reasonable amounts or looking for the cheap teacher?
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UncleAlex



Joined: 04 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 4:25 pm    Post subject: Mothers of the Disappeared Reply with quote

With all these foreign teachers being whisked away by CIA recruiters as
soon as they arrive here and disappearing under an alias, it won't be long
until all their mothers band together and demonstrate in front of the Korean
consulates in English speaking countries demanding to know the whereabouts
of their sons and daughters. Seriously, if there is a teacher shortage here, it's probably
because of the low pay, heavy schedules, poor housing, neglect, and abuse we
pedagogues have to suffer here. Cool
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where have all the teachers gone?
Long time passing
Where have all the teachers gone?
Long time ago
Where have all the teachers gone?
Wongjas screwed them every one
When will they ever learn?
When will they ever learn?
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sadsac



Joined: 22 Dec 2003
Location: Gwangwang

PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice bit of poetry there Bum. You missed your true calling. Smile
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The figures from the Korea Times cited in another post (the one by RR about salaries) says:

10,822 ESLers in 2003
12,000 in 2005

If teachers are harder to find, it is presumably because demand is rising faster than supply.
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jinju



Joined: 22 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 11:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Where have all the teachers gone? Reply with quote

sadsac wrote:
Been looking for a new teacher now for 2 months and there doesn't seem to be anybody out there. Has Korea reverted to the bad old days where people just don't want to come anymore or has this whole sealed transcripts garbage been the final nail in the coffin for ESL in Korea? Oh for the heady days of more teachers than jobs. Smile


Whats the offer?
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sadsac



Joined: 22 Dec 2003
Location: Gwangwang

PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 1:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jinju, check your inbox. Smile
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Hyeon Een



Joined: 24 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah what are the offers?

I got emails from people saying they work for the 'good' hagwans or some other such garbage.

The hagwan may be beautiful and the children angels, but if you want me to work SIX days a week then you can get to f... You might feed me delicious western food, but if you're wanting me to teach SEVEN classes a day, or do split shifts you can certainly P.O. . You might even be working at a hagwan with an offer like this, and think its awesome, but chances are its not. You're just being misled. You work at a crap hagwan. Sure you might get paid, but its still crap.

Its funny because lots of people diss the 'unigwans' for not being real uni jobs, but most of them at least offer 4-8 weeks vacation for 20-25 hours a week. i.e. a hell of a lot better deals than almost any hagwan out there.. yes.. even the 'good' ones.

I won't be taking another hagwan job unless they seriously offer some real money.

-Happy at a unigwan (20classes, 6weeks - ain't a uni but it sure as hell aint a hagwan)
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