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Can I get an int'l ATM card from KEB (Korea Exchange Bank)?
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napoleon8



Joined: 18 May 2003

PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 2:56 am    Post subject: Can I get an int'l ATM card from KEB (Korea Exchange Bank)? Reply with quote

I opened an account today with Korea Exchange Bank (KEB), but they didn't give me an international ATM card that I can use outside of Korea, such as Maestro/Cirrus or Plus. They told me "jikbul" card, but they only gave me a cash card for Korea. Can anyone banking with KEB tell me how to get an international ATM card? I didn't have my ARC card today, only my passport. If I show them my ARC, will that help? Is there any certain branch of KEB that you can recommend that will issue me an international ATM card?

More generally speaking, are banks in Korea discontinuing the international ATM card for foreigners? Does anyone have the facts on this issue? I would like to know.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 7:55 am    Post subject: Re: Can I get an int'l ATM card from KEB (Korea Exchange Ban Reply with quote

napoleon8 wrote:
I opened an account today with Korea Exchange Bank (KEB), but they didn't give me an international ATM card that I can use outside of Korea, such as Maestro/Cirrus or Plus. They told me "jikbul" card, but they only gave me a cash card for Korea. Can anyone banking with KEB tell me how to get an international ATM card? I didn't have my ARC card today, only my passport. If I show them my ARC, will that help? Is there any certain branch of KEB that you can recommend that will issue me an international ATM card?

More generally speaking, are banks in Korea discontinuing the international ATM card for foreigners? Does anyone have the facts on this issue? I would like to know.


Yes, they have one. You have to ask for it and they charge a fee ( 2000 or 3000 won when I got mine) to issue it.
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napoleon8



Joined: 18 May 2003

PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 4:19 am    Post subject: Re: Can I get an int'l ATM card from KEB (Korea Exchange Ban Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:

Yes, they have one. You have to ask for it and they charge a fee ( 2000 or 3000 won when I got mine) to issue it.

Well, the KEB's in Busan aren't giving them to foreigners. I went to another branch today, and they refused to give me one because I am an evil waygookin who cannot be trusted with the money he has earned legally on a legal visa.
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inspector gadget



Joined: 11 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 4:33 am    Post subject: a Reply with quote

Napolean,

I had the same issue a few years back, solution to your problem is have your director/principal/any korean to verify your existance to go with you and BANG done immediately no more questions asked
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BigBlackEquus



Joined: 05 Jul 2005
Location: Lotte controls Asia with bad chocolate!

PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That was a few years back.

Times have changed. The international ATM problem didn't become a big issue until sometime around last summer, if memory serves.
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philthy



Joined: 02 Sep 2005
Location: Incheon

PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I opened an account there in December to get a (secured) credit card and everything was fine. Then when I enquired to their help line about an international ATM card they said the law had changed and dirty filthy foreigners were allowed to make money and spend it Korea, but could not be trusted to access their accounts abroad (well, not in so many words). I have not tried it overseas yet, but I'm pretty sure we're all up the proverbial creek without a paddle.
Maybe it's time for Korea to join other first world countries and get rid of their arcaic banking regulations. The best one is that an ATM (which is there for convenience when the bank is closed) closes!! Sorry, no money for you.
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Tiny_Tibbo



Joined: 21 Apr 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well I went to my bank yesterday and asked if I could have a money order or a check book.....the answer was "no" and "no".....but last time they gave me 2 international cards Rolling Eyes .....so does anyone know how I can get a money order?
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peppermint



Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've gotten money orders at KEB- maybe they didn't understand what you were asking for? Anyone know what the Korean for "money order" is?

As for the cheque book- they don't use them here.
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mishlert



Joined: 13 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was at the Itaewon KEB just before the Lunar New Year weekend to get Baht (yes, they have it) and travler's checks for my trip to Thailand.
I told the person that I have an international KEB card and asked if it would work during my trip. He said that they had just gotten a notice from the Korean Govt. stating that all banks are to make foreigners' international ATM
cards null and void outside Korea. We then got into a discussion about the issue and he agreed with me about the stupidity of the law, but, ". . . we are a domestic bank and must follow the law in order to keep our liscence."

Well, during my trip I needed to cash some checks but it was too late so I tried my card and it worked; that was the first week of February, so I don't know how long it will last.
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Pyongshin Sangja



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bump!

So, cards that they have already been issued can be made retro-actively null and void?

I have had a Seoul/Hana Bank card with VISA PLUS since 2001, it used to work overseas. Probably still does, unless this law has actually changed that.

Nonghyup gave me an international MAESTRO card in 2003. I tried to have it replaced in 2005 and they gave me a song and dance about being a foreigner, then said that their branch didn't have the cards and that they would order one for me. I waited a couple of weeks. They never contacted me so I went back. Strangely, they had the cards under the counter that day. That card worked for me overseas last year. Will it stop working? That could really suck.

I am aware that you can now transfer as much money out of the country as you want from KEB ATM's, but you must specify the receiving accounts beforehand. Perhaps Korea is more comfortable with this sort of revenue outflow.

Screw this, I'm going to Standard Chartered (formerly Jeil Bank.) They are 100% foreign-owned.

In an aside, will foreigners' Korean credit cards now stop working overseas as well?
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napoleon8



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pyongshin Sangja wrote:


So, cards that they have already been issued can be made retro-actively null and void?

I would be very surprised if all Korean banks went to the trouble to de-activate the international aspect of all foreigners' ATM cards currently in circulation. That would be a lot of trouble. They probably will simply stop giving them out.

My Nonghyup Maestro/Cirrus card (also issued in 03) and my Maestro/Cirrus Kookmin card worked in Japan in January 2006. Maybe I will not be able to get those cards replaced when they wear out. My Nonghyup card already has a crack in it.

Pyongshin Sangja wrote:

Screw this, I'm going to Standard Chartered (formerly Jeil Bank.) They are 100% foreign-owned.

Let us know if you get a int'l ATM card. I called Citibank, and they said they don't give them to fcuking waygooks.
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ddeubel



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know what all the fuss is about............i got an international debit card, works fine. 3,000 won / transaction. I did go in with a Korean colleague though, as stated, this probably helps big time. Card still works so no retroactive mumbojumbo being done.... oh yeah, Hana bank it is, for all that matters. But I do have an account at CitiBank..........

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Let us know if you get a int'l ATM card. I called Citibank, and they said they don't give them to fcuking waygooks


I wish I could get such good ENGLISH service when I phone. I always get someone who even can't count, add or say "Could you repeat that please?". Did you get their name, so I may ask for them when I next call?

DD
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wanderer



Joined: 25 May 2003

PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 4:17 pm    Post subject: From the KEB Horse's Mouth Reply with quote

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harryh



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sometimes it's awkward being an 'international' citizen.

I haven't lived in the UK for 6 years, due to the nature of the job.

Last summer I returned for a short break, and applied for a visa with my UK bank, as I had previously been turned down for a Nongyup visa card here.

Unfortunately, I got turned down for a visa card in the UK because I am not on the Electoral roll in the UK (I've spent most of my adult life abroad).

I find it inconvenient! I've been in Korea for over three years now. There are things I'd like to buy from the internet occasionally, and would like a card for when I travel.

I looked into the possibility of an offshore bank account, but there is so much paperwork and translations required (plus cost), that it doesn't seem a good idea.

I may go to a KEB and find out what services I could possibly receive.
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Pyongshin Sangja



Joined: 20 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Please be informed that a newly revised Korean Foreign Exchange Transaction Regulation stipulates that foreigners, who have accounts opened in Korea, are not allowed to withdraw money abroad. To comply with the law, we prohibited any overseas withdrawal from Yes Check Card, Debit Card or Credit Card held by foreigners starting from Dec. 2, 2005. We apologize for any inconvenience caused by this limitation.

However, provided that those who have the Debit Card or the Credit Card issued before the law came into force, we decided to allow them to withdraw money from overseas. Those who hold Yes Check Card have withdrawn money over the past one year, they are allowed to continue to use the service.

As I stated above, one thing that you should bear in mind is that there is still a chance that overseas withdrawal service might be unavailable. Under the Korean Foreign Exchange Transaction Regulation, overseas withdraw-allowed cards but held by foreigners cannot be available for the service. In that case, prior notice of the service suspension is now under consideration.(EDIT: not sure exactly what this means, but I used my KEB debit card in Jan and Feb in Australia w/ no difficulties)

Thank you for contacting KEB.
Please write us should you have any other questions.

Best regards,

Kang, Ji-sook
KEB Customer Service Center


Well, if that ain't the be-all-end-all of somewhat legible discrimination.

Bastards.

And they didn't even make sense doing it.

Can someone with a law degree, or maybe an economist, shed some light on Korea's reasons for doing this?
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