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kathycanuck



Joined: 05 Dec 2005
Location: Namyangju

PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 7:12 am    Post subject: Korean censorship Reply with quote

Has anyone noticed the strange inconsistencies in Korean censorship on TV? Last night I was channel surfing and there was a Korean movie, lots of nudity, and today on a nature show they "fuzzed out" a stallion's genitals! Seem a tad odd to anyone else?
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Dan The Chainsawman



Joined: 05 May 2005

PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The horse's gochu was like way bigger than the average Korean's so in the humane interest of protecting the frail egos of korean males they blanked out the horse donk so them poor mama's boys would not go home and cry to mommy.
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Gorgias



Joined: 27 Aug 2005

PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear kathycanuck,

Censorship is my issue of the week!

Know your enemy:



No, but seriously, this doesn't have anything to do with the kids and family values. What it has everything to do with is the conservatives who don't trust the responsibility of their fellow men and women to see and read what their curiosity rises in them to know, and then to have the reasonability to conduct themselves inlight of that knowledge. Don't believe for one second that pro-censors are protecting the kids, they don't trust you with challenging knowledge.

Koreans censor things we wouldn't, gross things are censored, like garbage, stool or brains. Where as a huge amount of partial nudity makes it onto late night TV. Koreans, I feel, have less tolerance for violence and murder and a touch more for sex than we do, this ought to be a good think. So perhaps "inconsistencies" is not the fairest word, from their perspective it is systematic, and from ours, maybe a healthier method.

But what isn't so cool is the government policy to block just about every web site that has a naughty word somewhere on it, despite what that site is even about. A dictionary site could be banned, which is absurd. Pc cafes and your home server are supposed to prevent you from reaching a miriad of sites, however poorly they fail at this. The PC-bang I'm at now prevents me from reading various psychology articles, yet admits me to kiddie sights. This however is a failure of technology. The real issue is the philosophy behind the strict censoring of both images and dialoge. There are Korean (legitimate) artists in prison now for their off-color works. Playboy is illegal here. Various news and intelectual informations have been blocked.

Don't blame the kids, blame the technocrats who treat the populus like kids.
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Swearing in English is okay as they rarely translate the swearing in subtitles. "Get yo' b&t&h ass outta here before i shove this mutha f&&&&&&g gun up your stinky c&&t and blow your mutha f&&&&&&g brains out the muth f&&&&&&g hard way, b&&&h" usually gets translated as "leave now".

But wow editing out a horse's hose... was the horse using it?

It used to bother me living in Seattle how American TV would edit out all the perfectly good and useful nudity and swearing that Canadian TV would let be. What I thought was really funny, during an American airing of True Lies, there's the scene with the french guy taping the romantic undressing script. He comments "who wrote this? It's s&&t!" and then follows up with "c'est merde". Of course they edited out the s-word but left in the French equivalent.
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ajgeddes



Joined: 28 Apr 2004
Location: Yongsan

PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was actually quite surprised when I went home last summer to Ontario, and I was watching TV at about 10AM on a Saturday, and I was flipping through the channels and there was a show on with full nudity. This was just cable TV. I kind of laughed and thought about all the young teens at home at the moment who probably love Saturday morning TV.

That is one thing I like about TV in Canada. Things aren't as censored as much as in other countries on TV. I'm always amused by how American TV allows the most brutal and gruesome scenes go without censorship, but then would not dare let a pair of breasts go without censoring them. They are just nipples, we all have them (reminds me of that Seinfeld episode.)
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jazblanc77



Joined: 22 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Censorship? Shotty reporting? Propaganda? In Korea? NO!
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dulouz



Joined: 04 Feb 2003
Location: Uranus

PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I get tired of korea when I rent videos and DVD's and they are censored. i just sigh and do more downloading.
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ajgeddes wrote:
I was actually quite surprised when I went home last summer to Ontario, and I was watching TV at about 10AM on a Saturday, and I was flipping through the channels and there was a show on with full nudity. This was just cable TV. I kind of laughed and thought about all the young teens at home at the moment who probably love Saturday morning TV.

That is one thing I like about TV in Canada. Things aren't as censored as much as in other countries on TV. I'm always amused by how American TV allows the most brutal and gruesome scenes go without censorship, but then would not dare let a pair of *beep* go without censoring them. They are just nipples, we all have them (reminds me of that Seinfeld episode.)


What I found interesting was the difference in Canadian vs American Gulf War I footage. The one that really sticks out in my mind was some gun cam footage of a helicopter firing hellfire missiles at Iraqi APCs. Each time the pilot shot a missile, he'd say something like "say hello to Allah!" Basically mocking the guy's religion right before he died a fiery death. But that's what you heard on the Canadian broadcast. The American broadcast bleeped that out. Our soldiers being racist? Nah.

Another time there was this gun cam footage of an air duel over the Gulf of Sidra between some F14s and some Liyban MiG4s or something. I mean no contest but it was still pretty high stress and the American pilots were using the f-word quite a lot between their "jink right" and "I've got tone" cryptic utterances. The Canadian feed had no problem with the swearing. The American news coverage of course bleeped it out.

Another time a Detroit DJ was commenting how he caught a CBC interview with Pete Townshend. Pete was swearing away and CBC didn't bleep it out. He seemed rather impressed a nation's national media didn't censor stuff like that.

ObYeah, America sucks.
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hogwonguy1979



Joined: 22 Dec 2003
Location: the racoon den

PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gorgias wrote:
Playboy is illegal here.


Haven't seen the magazine here but Playboy TV is on here. WTF is the Spice Channel? they show a bunch of the Playboy channel shows, just the genetalia is blotted out. Apparently showing pubic hair is illegal here.
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Gorgias



Joined: 27 Aug 2005

PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apparently Playboy magazine is banned. However, I noticed in the paper yesterday that Playboy will be in Seoul shortly to do some recruiting.
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Css



Joined: 27 Sep 2004
Location: South of the river

PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 2:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good...goddamn horses always making me feel inadequate.
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uberscheisse



Joined: 02 Dec 2003
Location: japan is better than korea.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i had a student who owned - owned the nightmare before christmas when she lived in the states. while owning it she watched it about 200 times, as kids are prone to do with favorite movies.

she returns to korea. she sees the nightmare before christmas in the video store. of course, being a kid, she wants to watch it again.

in korea it's rated "14". her mom won't let her watch it, though she's seen it 200 times.

now is this the fact that her mom doesn't want to endure it a 201st time, or is it because she has some subconscious need to adhere to dumbass authority?

i'm stuck.
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chiaa



Joined: 23 Aug 2003

PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gorgias wrote:
Apparently Playboy magazine is banned. However, I noticed in the paper yesterday that Playboy will be in Seoul shortly to do some recruiting.


There is a Playboy Korea that is produced here. It is illegal to bring pornography across international borders (at the very least it is illegal to import/exort it in the US where it is produced) so that's why it is not imported. You can get in trouble bringing it in your luggage.
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Hater Depot



Joined: 29 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is also a more pernicious form of censorship.

http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200602/200602050001.html

Quote:
A planned musical about human rights abuses in North Korea��s Yoduk concentration camp has run into massive obstacles, not least from officials fearful of upsetting the Stalinist country.

South Korean government agencies are demanding changes to the story, which they say dwells too heavily on the negative aspects of the camp, according to producers. Officials also allegedly invoked the National Security Law to warn producers against showing a portrait of former leader Kim Il-sung and the singing of North Korean songs in the show.
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igotthisguitar



Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)

PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's up with randomly CENSORING of various brand & company names?

Does someone fear monkey seeing monkey buying?

Was watching the English "reality" cooking show "Hell's Kitchen" at around 11am couple months back.
Man, you wouldn't believe the language! Could hear it all clear as a bell.

Why the state censors didn't bleep it out ... i have noooooooo idea.

Gorgias wrote:
Don't blame the kids, blame the technocrats who treat the populus like kids.

I'll second this.

Social "Brave New World" engineers.

Remember children: K1 are the bloody carnage of WAR really are A-ok !!!
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