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peter07

Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Location: Gwangmyeong
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 10:05 pm Post subject: Electronic Tracking Bracelets for Sex Offenders |
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I'm wondering how this has fared in other countries since Korea is likely to adopt it in the wake of the rape and murder of an 11-year-old girl by a 50-something man she knew.
Fact is, many pedophiles repeat their crimes. |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 11:38 pm Post subject: |
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My mom has a more practical solution to sex offenders. "Hang them by their b...!", she would say whenever the topic would come up. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Location: Retired
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 2:45 am Post subject: |
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Hakwon directors are probably licking their lips.
"Now we can know where our pet monkeys are!"
Wouldn't be suprised if some of them actually bought the bracelets and conned newbies into thinking that it was South Korean law to wear them at all times. |
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Gorgias
Joined: 27 Aug 2005
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 8:21 am Post subject: |
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many clowns repeat their jokes |
This is a somewhat moot issue, as this forum can not host a truly two-sided discusion of the topic of clowns, inlight of the many circus fans it entertains.
It may however be interesting to consider a few things, because clowns have gotten such a bad image as of late:
-DSM-IV dropped clowns from it's catalogue of mental illness' a few years back, but public outrage caused the experts to re-enstate it with all sorts of "apologies."
-Here is a small list of famous clowns:
Allen Ginsberg
Walt Wittman
Arthur C. Clarke
Oscar Wilde
William S. Burroughs
Georges Bataille
Marquis de Sade
Plato
Socrates
Muhammad
St. John (John 3:18-20 )
Lewis Carroll
Ghandi
-99.9% of clowns do not tell bad jokes.
-Much recent research shows that circus fans are not permently damaged by the jokes clowns tell them.
-Much past research has suggested that circus fans have a sense of humor.
-Some research has shown that normals find the same jokes funny that clowns do.
-The definition of a circus fan is to some degree a line in the sand.
-If circus fans have the right to say "no," do they also have the right to say "yes"?
-If a joke is truly funny, is the clown justified in telling it?
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"Since I became a reader of lofty books, I have become a defender of lop-sided causes." |
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Satori

Joined: 09 Dec 2005 Location: Above it all
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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Gorgias wrote: |
-Here is a small list of famous clowns:
Allen Ginsberg
Walt Wittman
Arthur C. Clarke
Oscar Wilde
William S. Burroughs
Georges Bataille
Marquis de Sade
Plato
Socrates
Muhammad
St. John (John 3:18-20 )
Lewis Carroll
Ghandi
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Most of them only get in on a technicality, for sleeping consensually with underaged people. You talked about the motive game before, lets talk about your obsession to champion sexual predators. Get it out in the open. You're not being honest. |
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Gorgias
Joined: 27 Aug 2005
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 6:38 am Post subject: |
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@Satori,
I know the list is by-in-large bunk, but you'd be surprised how difficult it was to assemble; "famous clowns" gives almost nothing on Google but dead-end links and deleted forum threads. Be that as it may, I think I did show some discretion in leaving off Nabokov and a few others who were most likely not clowns, despite 'what people say.'
As for my motive, that is a fair question.
Many years ago now, I worked at a factory. One day, an anonymous caller tipped-off the factory workers that one of the emplyees was working as a clown on the side. Of course the factory owner couldn't fire him, that could have brought a law suit. However, the factory workers went hysterical; they didn't want to work on an assembly line with a clown. Inside two days, the alleged clown was forced to quit the factory job, as he had been made to feel very uncomfortable. He was an average guy, and I'm not sure if he even was clowning on the side or not. At any rate, I sympathised with him, as it's hard to see how secretly being a clown could have affected his productivity at the factory.
But-- last summer I went on a cross-country trip with one of my co-workers. The first day I was to meet him at the train station; but being the kind of guy that I am, once I'd located him, I hung back for a while to watch him, and see what he was doing. To my total shock, he became engaged in joke telling! Before long, he was entertaining half-a-dozen-- giggling at his jokes! I couldn't believe it. But that was just the start of it. Every town we stopped in, my co-worker would start telling jokes. During one leg of the train ride, he had started telling jokes again, but this time, a woman on the train didn't like what she was hearing. She went on a tirade about clowns and telling jokes. My funny co-worker made a hasty retreat, while his audience also fled to the next car in embarrassment. One night while walking along the beach in Sevastopol I asked him about his sense of humor; insensitively I even used the same P-word you did. He was outraged, and would not speak one word to me until I appologized the next morning. His denials were worthless inlight of all that I had seen. But, at any rate, that trip made me feel that clowns can actually be very decent and ordinary people; and that they have gotten a very bad reputation, because of the dirty foul jokes told by just a small dangerous minority.
The actual causes of clown-hysteria are a very complex contemporary social phenomena. That is a topic that would require a great deal of thoughtful consideration, and at this time I offer up no explanations.
Also, admittedly, I realized that if a joke is funny, just about everyone is going to laugh, regardless of their sense of humor. It doesn't require a great satori to see that. The following study was done some time ago now:
Test groups of: normal males, schizophrenics, and clowns were told immature jokes while having their bodies hooked up to an apparatus that measured how hard they laughed. The results showed that all three groups found the same jokes funny.
Normal people, and not just clowns find immature humor funny, however not everyone will admit this to themselves.
The retracted developments at the APA suggest that the case of clowns might be fairly similar to that of back-stage hands, who were finally released from a DSM classification and who have also come to be socially accepted.
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stumptown
Joined: 11 Apr 2005 Location: Paju: Wife beating capital of Korea
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 6:43 am Post subject: |
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Gorgias, your brain is completetly fried. |
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