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sundubuman



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 8:27 am    Post subject: Stand Against Toonophobia! Reply with quote

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Bulsajo



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yo, Dude, please!
How about some advance warning- this thread isn't work-safe!!!!
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ontheway



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tooni achhbarr !
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On the other hand



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Comparing Warner Bros. animation to the Danish cartoons is a bit of a stretch.

Unless, of course, I missed the opening parts of Bugs Bunny, where Chuck Jones came on and said "I realize that my animation is deeply offensive to certain religious groups, but I produce these cartoons anyway just to make a point about that".
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Yu_Bum_suk



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's pretty funny, actually.
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Bulsajo



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the other hand wrote:
Comparing Warner Bros. animation to the Danish cartoons is a bit of a stretch.


True enough. But I think Muslim beliefs on the depiction of the Prophet deserve the same mocking that Christian beliefs on creationism, Scientology beliefs on psychiatry and e-meters, and Mormon beliefs on Jesus popping up in America and God turning faithless Americans' skins red all deserve.

To mock them less because they claim greater outrage is just hypocritical, IMO. I'll keep on mocking them all and applauding others who do the same.
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Pligganease



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bulsajo wrote:
To mock them less because they claim greater outrage is just hypocritical, IMO. I'll keep on mocking them all and applauding others who do the same.


Indeed.

On the other hand wrote:
Comparing Warner Bros. animation to the Danish cartoons is a bit of a stretch.


What about Piglet? Laughing
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jinju



Joined: 22 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the other hand wrote:
Comparing Warner Bros. animation to the Danish cartoons is a bit of a stretch.

Unless, of course, I missed the opening parts of Bugs Bunny, where Chuck Jones came on and said "I realize that my animation is deeply offensive to certain religious groups, but I produce these cartoons anyway just to make a point about that".


Um no, they are both DRAWINGS. Basically, only backwards retards would be offended by them.
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On the other hand



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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On the other hand wrote:
Comparing Warner Bros. animation to the Danish cartoons is a bit of a stretch.



True enough. But I think Muslim beliefs on the depiction of the Prophet deserve the same mocking that Christian beliefs on creationism, Scientology beliefs on psychiatry and e-meters, and Mormon beliefs on Jesus popping up in America and God turning faithless Americans' skins red all deserve.


And of course that Danish newspaper is just famous for openly blaspheming the Christian god, aren't they?
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Pligganease



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the other hand wrote:
And of course that Danish newspaper is just famous for openly blaspheming the Christian god, aren't they?


Truthfully, though, we don't know and don't care. They probably do, in fact, criticize Christians, Jews, and others. They probably have had caricatures of deities and religious figures other than Mohammed.

The difference is that it wasn't news until people started setting themselves on fire because of it. If Christians started rioting every time someone drew a caricature of Jesus or the Pope, there would be mass chaos every day. Sane people, people that are confident in their own religion, disregard criticism or blasphemy by another culture that has freedoms or opinions that they do not.

The fact is that many Muslims openly shout that Christians, Jews, or any "infidels" are sub-human. Why can't we say the same, be it through speech, writings, or drawings?
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On the other hand



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 2:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pligganese wrote:

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On the other hand wrote:
And of course that Danish newspaper is just famous for openly blaspheming the Christian god, aren't they?


Truthfully, though, we don't know and don't care. They probably do, in fact, criticize Christians, Jews, and others. They probably have had caricatures of deities and religious figures other than Mohammed.




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Jyllands-Posten, the Danish newspaper that first published the cartoons of the prophet Muhammad that have caused a storm of protest throughout the Islamic world, refused to run drawings lampooning Jesus Christ, it has emerged today.
The Danish daily turned down the cartoons of Christ three years ago, on the grounds that they could be offensive to readers and were not funny.



Yep, just a bunch of free-wheeling anti-clerical iconoclasts down at Jyllands-Posten, eh?
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On the other hand



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,,1703501,00.html
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bigverne



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 2:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jyllands-Posten is also a business, and it has far more to lose financially by pissing off Christians than by pissing off its non-existent muslim readership.

Anyway, people in the West are free to lampoon Christ and the Christian Church, without the threat of mass violence and riots.
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Leslie Cheswyck



Joined: 31 May 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the other hand wrote:
Pligganese wrote:

Quote:
On the other hand wrote:
And of course that Danish newspaper is just famous for openly blaspheming the Christian god, aren't they?


Truthfully, though, we don't know and don't care. They probably do, in fact, criticize Christians, Jews, and others. They probably have had caricatures of deities and religious figures other than Mohammed.




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Jyllands-Posten, the Danish newspaper that first published the cartoons of the prophet Muhammad that have caused a storm of protest throughout the Islamic world, refused to run drawings lampooning Jesus Christ, it has emerged today.
The Danish daily turned down the cartoons of Christ three years ago, on the grounds that they could be offensive to readers and were not funny.



Yep, just a bunch of free-wheeling anti-clerical iconoclasts down at Jyllands-Posten, eh?


It's their right to publish or not publish whatever they damn well please. They don't owe anybody anything.

Even if they did publish degrading images of Christ I doubt we'd see worldwide rioting from Christians.

Here's a little something for laughs. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,6-2049788,00.html
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Barking Mad Lord Snapcase



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 6:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the other hand wrote:
Comparing Warner Bros. animation to the Danish cartoons is a bit of a stretch.


Did you feel comfortable living in a democracy?
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