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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul
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 Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 1:26 am Post subject: Illegal English Teachers Thriving |
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Illegal English Teachers Thriving
Seoul Immigration estimates the number of illegal foreign instructors all over the country at 30,000.
The Seoul immigration caught a Canadian "M" (26) who entered Korea with a tourist visa in 2002 and earned about 150 million won by illegal tutoring in Bucheon-city, Gyeonggi for three and a half years, and deported him on March 8. It turned out that "M", just a high school graduate, pretended that he graduated from a prestigious university in Canada and made money more than 10 million won a month at max by teaching children of an lawyer, a doctor, an Oriental doctor and so forth.... Exposed foreign instructors are either fined two million won or deported.
Donga.com (March 21, 2006)
http://english.donga.com/srv/service.php3?biid=2006032125958 |
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Pligganease
Joined: 14 Sep 2004
Location: The deep south...
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| Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:01 am Post subject: Re: Illegal English Teachers Thriving |
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| ...made money more than 10 million won a month at max by teaching children of an lawyer, a doctor, an Oriental doctor and so forth.... |
BOO-YAH!
However, does anyone but myself think that this number was probably inflated in order to
a) sensationalize the story?
b) create a larger amount of animosity regarding pay toward foreign teachers?
c) make the crime seem more vulgar than it really is? |
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diver
Joined: 16 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:16 am Post subject: Re: Illegal English Teachers Thriving |
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| Pligganease wrote: |
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| ...made money more than 10 million won a month at max by teaching children of an lawyer, a doctor, an Oriental doctor and so forth.... |
BOO-YAH!
However, does anyone but myself think that this number was probably inflated in order to
a) sensationalize the story?
b) create a larger amount of animosity regarding pay toward foreign teachers?
c) make the crime seem more vulgar than it really is? |
d) all of the above
I'm surprised that they didn't mention that the guy was having sex with the students' mothers too. |
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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 3:10 am Post subject: Re: Illegal English Teachers Thriving |
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| diver wrote: |
| Pligganease wrote: |
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| ...made money more than 10 million won a month at max by teaching children of an lawyer, a doctor, an Oriental doctor and so forth.... |
BOO-YAH!
However, does anyone but myself think that this number was probably inflated in order to
a) sensationalize the story?
b) create a larger amount of animosity regarding pay toward foreign teachers?
c) make the crime seem more vulgar than it really is? |
d) all of the above
I'm surprised that they didn't mention that the guy was having sex with the students' mothers too. |
However, in another part of the article, you read:
The instructor, who entered Korea from Canada in 2000, had been stripped of his visa on charges of sexually harassing a female student while working at two universities in Seoul in November 2005.
Donga.com
http://english.donga.com/srv/service.php3?biid=2006032125958 |
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itaewonguy
Joined: 25 Mar 2003
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| Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 8:10 am Post subject: |
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how many illegal koreans are there in the states or canada?
how many hookers are working in brothals making over 10G's a month?
how many koreans are illegals in our countries making a killing?
30.000 teachers? hahahah probably more thats how many westerners came into the country so they figure they were all here to teach!
30.000 WHATEVER!! thats a joke!!
still compared to the 3 million illegal koreans in the states! Id say koreans need to stop worrying so much! and they still wonder why America wont drop the visa waiver!
I love that one quote!
" foreigners make more than korean hakwon teachers do who graduated from university!" hahahaaah there wouldnt be a school if there were no BIG NOSES in the house! |
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ontheway
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...
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| Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 8:19 am Post subject: |
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He was here 42 months.
He made 150 million won.
That's about 3.7 million per month, not 10 million.
3.7 would be easy doing all privates. |
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Dan The Chainsawman
Joined: 05 May 2005
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Good for him I hope he didn't blow it all on hooker hill.
Sorry while I see alot of people going up in arms over illegal teachers I really don't give a shit.
Good on him.
I hope he has enough cheddar saved up to set himself up in style at home. |
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nautilus
Joined: 26 Nov 2005
Location: Je jump, Tu jump, oui jump!
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| Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 8:42 am Post subject: Re: Illegal English Teachers Thriving |
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| Pligganease wrote: |
However, does anyone but myself think that this number was probably inflated in order to
a) sensationalize the story?
b) create a larger amount of animosity regarding pay toward foreign teachers?
c) make the crime seem more vulgar than it really is? |
Totally.
Take the most extreme example, paint all foreign teachers with the same brush, and you have a story you can sell.
Korean media exists, to fulfill the deepest feelings of victimhood of the Korean people. |
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jaganath69
Joined: 17 Jul 2003
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| Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm interested to know where the figure of 30000 comes from, considering there are only around 10000 legit teachers over here. |
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I_Am_Wrong
Joined: 14 Sep 2004
Location: whatever
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| Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm wondering how Itaewonguy can possibly believe that there are 3 million illegal koreans in the United States. |
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ajgeddes
Joined: 28 Apr 2004
Location: Yongsan
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| Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm wondering how Itaewonguy can possibly believe that there are 3 million illegal koreans in the United States. |
It might not be that off. There are over 120,000 illegal Koreans in Canada, and that is known by both the Canadian and Korean governments. Now, if you look at it proportionately, 3 million might be a little high, but somewhere between 1 to 2 million might not be. However, i really don't have any idea what the situation is like in the USA. |
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Wrench
Joined: 07 Apr 2005
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| Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm wondering how Itaewonguy can possibly believe that there are 3 million illegal koreans in the United States. |
It might not be that off. There are over 120,000 illegal Koreans in Canada, and that is known by both the Canadian and Korean governments. Now, if you look at it proportionately, 3 million might be a little high, but somewhere between 1 to 2 million might not be. However, i really don't have any idea what the situation is like in the USA. |
100 thousand in Canada..
Oh there is only about 8 thousand legit teachers.. THe number keeps droping as well.
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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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100,000 illegal Koreans in Canada
... The most illegal emigrants -- nearly 183,000 -- were in the United States, followed by Canada with some 100,000.
The Asian Pacific Post, September 9, 2004
http://www.asianpacificpost.com/news/article/185.html
265,000 Koreans Live Abroad Illegally
by Jae-Young Kim, Donga.com (October 21, 2005)
http://english.donga.com/srv/service.php3?biid=2005102147998
Unforeseen dangers of Korea's Hagwon culture
In fact with the American and Canadian embassies regularly posting warnings against teaching in Korea, the number of foreign teachers in Korea has dropped from 13,000 in 1997 to 6000 in 2005.
Asian Pacific Post (January 5, 2006)
http://www.asianpacificpost.com/portal2/4028818208a0ac650108b6a2586f0076_Unforeseen_dangers_of_Korea_Hagwon_culture.do.html
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pest2
Joined: 01 Jun 2005
Location: Vancouver, Canada
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| Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 4:33 pm Post subject: Re: Illegal English Teachers Thriving |
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| Pligganease wrote: |
However, does anyone but myself think that this number was probably inflated in order to
a) sensationalize the story?
b) create a larger amount of animosity regarding pay toward foreign teachers?
c) make the crime seem more vulgar than it really is? |
yes |
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pest2
Joined: 01 Jun 2005
Location: Vancouver, Canada
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| Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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| ajgeddes wrote: |
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| I'm wondering how Itaewonguy can possibly believe that there are 3 million illegal koreans in the United States. |
It might not be that off. There are over 120,000 illegal Koreans in Canada, and that is known by both the Canadian and Korean governments. Now, if you look at it proportionately, 3 million might be a little high, but somewhere between 1 to 2 million might not be. However, i really don't have any idea what the situation is like in the USA. |
"Illegal alien population surges since 2000
By Stephen Dinan
The Washington Times
Published March 8, 2006
WASHINGTON -- The illegal alien population in the United States is between 11.5 million and 12 million, with two-thirds having arrived in the past decade and 40 percent since 2000, a report says."
The article goes on to say that 54% of the illegals are Mexican and something like another 10% are from Latin American countries. So something like 4 million are NOT Mexican or Latin.
I doubt that 1/2 of the 'others' are Korean... Anyone got any stats on that? |
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