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Yu_Bum_suk · Joined: 25 Dec 2004

http://www.nypost.com/news/nationalnews/64713.htm

Now surely, if it was just careless error - which along with careless not-so-erroneous shootings of non-Americans - they do all the time, this wouldn't be investigated as a homicide. Wouldn't it be funny if it turned out that this would-be great American hero was so loathed by his 'comrades' that they shot him in the back at the first opportunity French Foreign Legion-style?

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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee · Joined: 25 May 2003

laogaiguk · Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Location: somewhere in Korea

Mills · Joined: 07 Jan 2006 Location: Incheon

canuckistan · Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 6:53 am Post subject:

I think all the fallout this has produced is from the ridiculous way the military first handled the case and the Tillman's familys' disillusionment with the whole process of his deification for political ends, only to discover later the military was covering up the "friendly fire" possibilities for a long time afterwards.

supernick · Joined: 24 Jan 2003 Location: Seoul

Summer Wine · Joined: 20 Mar 2005 Location: Next to a River

Do you know how the term fragged has been used in Vietnam? It refered to the actual targeting of superior ranks who may have been disliked or expected results unwanted by the rest of the troops.

Friendly fire has been understood for a number of years to be the result of mistaken or poorly directed fire upon ones or allied troops.

Was Tillman really fragged? is an interesting play on words, but unless he was found to be leading mutinous or unwilling troops into an action, that resulted in him being killed. The best that could be argued is that he is a victim of friendly fire.

Many other nations that have been allied with the US, are hesitant at best to play with them as they have historically been the victims of friendly fire. These many occurances have been determined to be caused by fear or over exuberance on the parts of US troops and examples of them not always being very good team players.

Bulsajo · Joined: 16 Jan 2003

Summer Wine · Joined: 20 Mar 2005 Location: Next to a River

Rereading the post.

mindmetoo · Joined: 02 Feb 2004

Mills · Joined: 07 Jan 2006 Location: Incheon

supernick · Joined: 24 Jan 2003 Location: Seoul

It's all too bad because there are many who do great heroic acts but we never hear of them. When some are used for other purposes they end up getting some egg on their faces.

mindmetoo · Joined: 02 Feb 2004

Mills · Joined: 07 Jan 2006 Location: Incheon

I'll catch hell for this, but who cares? Before I enlisted in the Marine Corps, if you asked "Should women be allowed in combat?", I would have said "Yes, absolutely!". After serving in the Marine Corps, I say "If they can carry their own sh*t and move as quickly as everyone else while doing so." There should not be lower standards for women, there should be equal standards for all. If you are a woman who can carry a 70 lb pack, a weapon, and its ammunition while running your ass off, you can go to combat. If you are a 100 lb stick-figure who can't remember how to clean (let alone discharge) your weapon, you have no business in a combat zone. ADMIN, yes. Combat, no.

*Flame on!