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periwinkle



Joined: 08 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 4:09 pm    Post subject: How would you handle this? Reply with quote

Imagine you are an east Asian woman, and you are innocently shopping in a grocery store in a western country. The clerk doesn't think you are paying any attention, as you are engrossed in searching for the perfectly textured tomato. She catches her co-worker's eye, and pulls the skin on the side of her eyes tight so her eyes look like slits, and shapes her mouth so she looks buck-toothed- i.e., she's doing a "China-man".

The Asian woman sees this, and is hurt and stunned. She gives a long look to the woman, who giggles, and then she looks at the woman's co-worker, who is poker-faced. She walks away, and does nothing because she is non-confrontational. Later, she is angry, and still thinking about the incident the next day. She is feeling victimized for not standing-up for herself.

Let's reverse the roles, and now the woman is white, and she receieved this treatment in Korea. This time it's google-eyes. Anyway, what would you do? How would you have handled the situation? Also, if you feel like defending this type of behavior, save it, ok? I'm really, really not in the mood for it right now.


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justagirl



Joined: 17 Jan 2003
Location: Cheonan/Portland

PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would have given them the dirtiest look and said something rude in Korean that amounted to, "What's your problem, stupid?" If I were already having a bad day, I'd probably yell at her, or walked up right next to her, get in her face and start speaking really fast and mean in English to intimidate her. Then I'd go home and wish I'd thrown the darn tomato in her face.

That's my mean side. On a side note, I was in Carrefour and buying fruits and veggies and one of their people kept holding up tomatoes and saying, "You fat." "Diet." "Tomato." I now wish I'd squished those tomatoes all over his white shirt.
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd laugh and start up a conversation with her, and let her know that I think brown, slitted eyes like hers are really a lot more attractive, like Korean women in general. But then again, I'm a guy who lets things like that slide right off his back, not an easily offended woman.
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periwinkle



Joined: 08 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="justagirl"]
That's my mean side. On a side note, I was in Carrefour and buying [b]fruits and veggies and one of their people kept holding up tomatoes and saying, "You fat." "Diet." "Tomato." I now wish I'd squished those tomatoes all over his white shirt.[quote]

OMG- I'm sorry that happened to you. That's just so mean. Also, it's absolutely not acceptable behavior in Korea. We're customers for God's sake. What's the deal with freaky people in the tomato section, anyway? LOL My friend recommended I speak to a manager, but I really wonder if that would do any good.

I wish I could grow some balls and confront people, but I'm the type that just walks away and then stews about what I could've or should've done. I just hope that what goes around, comes around.


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periwinkle



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yu_Bum_suk wrote:
I'd laugh and start up a conversation with her, and let her know that I think brown, slitted eyes like hers are really a lot more attractive, like Korean women in general. But then again, I'm a guy who lets things like that slide right off his back, not an easily offended woman.


It was racist, and it wasn't a joke. So you think I should go up to her and say, Yeah, my eyes are ugly and kiss her ass? Did you even read the first part of my post? That's not acceptable back home, and it's not acceptable here. I can't believe you turned this into a "Korean women are more attractive than western women" thing. Screw you.
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coffeeman



Joined: 24 Nov 2005
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember when I was a young boy like 30 years ago in North America, people used to make fun of the Chinese kids. Today race isn't an issue. People don't even think about it. In this respect, Korea is about 30 years behind the west. Sure having lots of Asians settling down in my country helps, but Koreans have seen enough visting Westerners by now that they should be used to them. Anyway, I still get "Weygunin!" (foreigner!) wherever I go. I just shrug my head and walk on. You can't reason with ignorant peope.
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peppermint



Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yu_Bum_suk wrote:
I'd laugh and start up a conversation with her, and let her know that I think brown, slitted eyes like hers are really a lot more attractive, like Korean women in general. But then again, I'm a guy who lets things like that slide right off his back, not an easily offended woman.

No, you're just a pathetic white guy who believes any attention from a Korean woman is good attention.

As for the OP, you'd think talking to the manager would have an effect, but really, if that woman hasn't reached maturity yet, she probably never will. Shake your head in pity at her ignorance and walk on
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billybrobby



Joined: 09 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the first thing i would do is go here and write about it. and if i was really angry, i might make a poll.
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periwinkle



Joined: 08 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

billybrobby wrote:
the first thing i would do is go here and write about it. and if i was really angry, i might make a poll.


Har, har, har!!!!!!

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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

billybrobby wrote:
the first thing i would do is go here and write about it. and if i was really angry, i might make a poll.

Laughing
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Mills



Joined: 07 Jan 2006
Location: Incheon

PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Poor periwinkle... punished because of your race once again. When will the world recognize the plight of the white woman?
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you aren't a confrontational person, then there isn't much you can do about the situation. Just shake your head and move on, muttering about the existence of stupid people everywhere.

I would consider speaking to the manager or writing a letter to the head office if it's a big company. I don't know if those actions are too confrontational for you or not, but something to think about.
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periwinkle



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mills wrote:
Poor periwinkle... punished because of your race once again. When will the world recognize the plight of the white woman?


Mills, I'm not really sure how to take what you said, but the picture is cute, so I'll assume you're joking and being sarcastic. 'S all good.

I guess what really bothers me is that I'm worried about having kids here, and I'd hate for them to have to deal with this kind-of stuff. I know I need to grow some thicker skin, but I've always been sensitive to others' mean comments/nasty actions all my life. I'm a bit surprised some of you think I've no reason to be offended. Perhaps it's because I try to be careful of others' feelings and try not to hurt or offend people. When it happenes to me, I just can't understand where it's coming from. I mean, why make fun of a perfect stranger? I just don't get it. This woman was easily in her mid to late 30's, as well.

Ya, Ta boy- thanks for that. I'm going to write a letter to E-mart now. This will make me feel like I've done something to stand-up for myself. Perfect solution for me!^^


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pest2



Joined: 01 Jun 2005
Location: Vancouver, Canada

PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yu_Bum_suk wrote:
But then again, I'm a guy who lets things like that slide right off his back, not an easily offended woman.


OK, dont take this wrong, but I am seriously confused. Are you a guy or a woman?
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

periwinkle wrote:
Yu_Bum_suk wrote:
I'd laugh and start up a conversation with her, and let her know that I think brown, slitted eyes like hers are really a lot more attractive, like Korean women in general. But then again, I'm a guy who lets things like that slide right off his back, not an easily offended woman.


It was racist, and it wasn't a joke. So you think I should go up to her and say, Yeah, my eyes are ugly and kiss her ass? Did you even read the first part of my post? That's not acceptable back home, and it's not acceptable here. I can't believe you turned this into a "Korean women are more attractive than western women" thing. Screw you.


Well make a joke of it then. There's no need to take a hurtful, confrontational aproach when it's just some immature Korean goofing around. She's pehaps not even talked to a white woman before.
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