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ravel
Joined: 21 Nov 2005 Location: China
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Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 4:03 am Post subject: Classroom management of Korean Kids 4-14 |
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I'm barely started and already frustrated. I did some teaching in China, though some of the kids were disruptive, Korean kids seem to be actively defiant. I took a TESL course, and recall the gist of the classroom management material, but so far none of it seems to be working very well. I would hugely appreciate any real world advice about how to deal with this age group. The young ones are for te most part are very sweet and as is natural easily distracted. Some of the middle school students on the other hand are outright disrespectful, mouthy, and rude. Any positive suggestions? |
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laogaiguk

Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Location: somewhere in Korea
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Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 4:07 am Post subject: Re: Classroom management of Korean Kids 4-14 |
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ravel wrote: |
I'm barely started and already frustrated. I did some teaching in China, though some of the kids were disruptive, Korean kids seem to be actively defiant. I took a TESL course, and recall the gist of the classroom management material, but so far none of it seems to be working very well. I would hugely appreciate any real world advice about how to deal with this age group. The young ones are for te most part are very sweet and as is natural easily distracted. Some of the middle school students on the other hand are outright disrespectful, mouthy, and rude. Any positive suggestions? |
Chocolate. Not too much, not too often. But let them know good behaviour = chocolate. Works wonders.
I actually made money, laminated it, and give it out which they can use at a store I made (tons of small toys and food). This costs me about 50000 a month though, so I don't think it is for everybody. Now, I threaten to take away money and the literally *beep* themselves saying sorry and being good  |
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plato's republic
Joined: 07 Dec 2004 Location: Ancient Greece
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Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 4:22 am Post subject: |
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Be firm, be authoritative, make sure they understand that you are in control, don't stand for any rude or offensive remarks or gestures. Discipline them whenever necessary and reward them for good work/behaviour. Sometimes bribing them with candy works wonders. Otherwise explain your situation to your Korean co-workers and the director. If they are unwilling to help, then do whatever works best for you.
Whenever I send a kid out of class for bad behaviour, the Korean teachers are always asking why, why, why? Last week, one of them barged in on my class and asked why poor little *insert name* was standing outside in the hallway with his hands on his head. I explained that he was out there because of his disruptive behaviour in class and had been repeatedly warned of the consequences before I threw him out. She told me he had to come back into the classroom. I told her that he would only come in when I asked him to and that if she didn't like it then she could teach my lesson for me. She soon shut up after that. |
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Mills
Joined: 07 Jan 2006 Location: Incheon
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Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 5:48 am Post subject: |
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Rolled-up newspaper, seriously. If you whack it against a desk it's loud and gets everyone's attention. A smack on the head appears quite viscious, but only does temporary damage. |
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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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Be firm, but not angry.
This is easier said than done.........believe me I know.
The trick is to have them think you are angry, but don't let it get to the point where you actually have to lose your cool. It's a hard thing to do if you're in a classroom full of twirps who won't do anything.
One thing I try and do is stay on the main instigator.......keep asking him or her all the questions, don't let up. It doesn't help much if they are all disruptive though.
The best thing is to have activities that get them interested....again..not so easy.
A game like Typhoon can be useful, but playing too many games is not helpful either.
Remember, they are just kids and they are trapped in this living hell "Korean edumifucation system", so it's natural for them to want to rebel against it.
When I think of my French classes back home..........Korean kids ain't so bad. But it's still not easy.
Hang in there. Just getting to know the kids can help also. |
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Yu_Bum_suk

Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 8:55 pm Post subject: Re: Classroom management of Korean Kids 4-14 |
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If that does not work then send him/her to the director's office. |
That's been known to backfire more often than it works.
Take all the initiative yourself. Do it all or nothing. If you take the 'all' approach just keep doing whatever it takes. If the boss tries to undermine you, threaten to quit. If you take the 'nothing' approach tell the boss to tell you what should do if he has any problems it. If he doesn't like it tell him he can fire you.
If you try anything in the middle or try to please everyone you'll just end up more and more frustrated. Don't blame yourself, either - unless all the other FTs classes are perfect and yours are disasters it probably has more to do with the institution you're at then you yourself. I've seen the difference between crap hogwan and good middle school and know without a doubt that the former is 99% the creation of an idiot, shit-for-brains, money-grubbing director. Don't tolerate any disrespect from the kids if you take the 'all' approach. Doing so just sets a very low bar and indicates that your classroom is not a place of learning. |
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