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Angie



Joined: 11 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 4:27 am    Post subject: School closes and re-opens Reply with quote

So the situation is: My school closed for tax reasons but opened under a different name and by the previous owners wife. We have been told that this happens quite often in korea. So this happened a few months ago and we were told approx. 2 months later about any of it. After many discussions, trips to immigration and refusals to lie for the school to immigration, everything is still not clear. As far as we are told is that the owner of the school has technically had us working here for a few months but didn't cancel our visa's so he will just pay a fine for us. He recently did cancel our visa's and we got the 14 day exit order. Now we are heading to Japan to get new visa's paid for by the school. My question is since all of this happened due to personal reasons I would like to move to another location in Korea, so if I have no contract and no visa right now can I ignore the immigration number that I was given and come back on a touist visa without getting in trouble for officially breaking a contract that was already broken for me? What is the process for a Canadian to get a tourist visa, can I just get a stamp at the ferry or do I actually need to go to immigration for this? If anyone could give me some advice and/or answer some/all of my questions, I would be thankful!
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 5:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like a crappy situation you have been through.

However, now it sounds like you are going to accept money from a guy to go to Japan and then stiff him by never coming back. He's out a few hundred thousand won and a couple of teachers with no warning.

Is that really your plan?
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jacl



Joined: 31 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 5:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He can't send you to Japan to get a visa if you don't sign a new contract. So, this would be like pulling a rabbit out of a hat.
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jacl



Joined: 31 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 5:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Double post
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BigBuds



Joined: 15 Sep 2005
Location: Changwon

PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 7:07 am    Post subject: Re: School closes and re-opens Reply with quote

Angie wrote:
My question is since all of this happened due to personal reasons I would like to move to another location in Korea, so if I have no contract and no visa right now can I ignore the immigration number that I was given and come back on a touist visa without getting in trouble for officially breaking a contract that was already broken for me?


If immigration has already issued you the new visa issuance number then it may be difficult to just go and get a new job (it also means that they do have a contract for you on file. If you just leave your job, you have broken your contract, as far as they're concerned, and they may not allow you to apply for another visa. They won't issue a visa issuance number with out a signed contract. maybe your boss just signed a new contract and put that in a immigration iof you didn't sign a new one. Immigration doesn't check signatures).

If you do want to find a new job, first, you'll have to get immigration to cancel the new visa issuance number, which is something they don't like to do once it's been issued but they have been know to cancel them if you have a very good reason or catch them on a good day. then you have to start the whole visa process off again with your new job.
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ontheway



Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...

PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It sounds like you've already signed a new contract. You should honor that contract unless you have a legitimate reason to get out of it.

Did you get paid while the school was "closed"? Did you work while the school was closed? Do you hate your boss and/or new boss (wife) so much that you want to destroy them? If you run now you probably will.

In addition, if you signed a contract and are on the way to Japan, with their money! and then you destroy their newly reopened business, they can sue you for breach of contract, large financial damages and prevent you from working in Korea for the term of your new contract and possibly up to 5 years. When Koreans get angry, they can go to great lengths for such revenge.

A contract becomes valid and enforceable the day you sign it. You are not "free" to break it just because you haven't yet obtained an E2. It may or may not have terms related to obtaining an E2 that void the contract if you fail to get an E2, but it is still valid from the day you sign it.
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Angie



Joined: 11 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 1:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, I was never planning on taking the money. I've worked 3 weeks without being paid, that would equal about $1500. I wouldn't collect any of that and they could use it for any expenses. However I haven't yet decided that I would leave the school but I just thought I would look for information on how leaving the school would affect everyone involved and if getting a new job would be something possible. Also for future reference I would like to know what the process is for a canadian to get a tourist visa? Thanks for your comments!
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jacl



Joined: 31 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 6:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You don't have to do anything for a tourist visa but enter the country. It's good for 6 months.
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Pak Yu Man



Joined: 02 Jun 2005
Location: The Ida galaxy

PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jacl wrote:
You don't have to do anything for a tourist visa but enter the country. It's good for 6 months.


If he's a Canadian, 3 months otherwise.
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jacl



Joined: 31 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pak Yu Man wrote:
jacl wrote:
You don't have to do anything for a tourist visa but enter the country. It's good for 6 months.


If he's a Canadian, 3 months otherwise.


With a name like "angie", I figure the OP for a "she". I'm assuming he/she is Canadian because he/she is looking for a Canadian visa.
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