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cubanlord



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 4:09 am    Post subject: Guys..need you help on some religious stuff please... Reply with quote

I am currently looking for the books that were NOT included in the compilation of the Bible. I thought there was a book (not the Dead Sea Scrolls) that had them in it. Any help would be great. Thanks.
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cwemory



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 4:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Simplest answer would be the Apocrypha.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apocrypha
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 4:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check out the work done by Elaine Pagels. She's done some highly respected work on the Gnostic Gospels.
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jaganath69



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 5:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I could only think of "Jesus the Man" by Barbara Theiring, but its based on the Dead Sea Scrolls.
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Troll_Bait



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 6:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you look at this page (about "The Complete Idiot's Guide to the Gnostic Gospels" by J. Michael Matkin), you can find many links to other books, such as The Gnostic Gospels (Vintage) by Elaine Pagels.

I read The Complete Idiot's Guide to Mary Magdalene by Lesa Bellevie and found it to be very good.
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shortskirt_longjacket



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 5:49 am    Post subject: Re: Guys..need you help on some religious stuff please... Reply with quote

cubanlord wrote:
I am currently looking for the books that were NOT included in the compilation of the Bible.


I'm curious....why?
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tomato



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a good one:
The Other Bible, compiled by Willis Barnstone

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0060815981/sr=8-1/qid=1142618715/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-2598709-4541748?%5Fencoding=UTF8
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Xian



Joined: 08 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 4:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Guys..need you help on some religious stuff please... Reply with quote

cubanlord wrote:
I am currently looking for the books that were NOT included in the compilation of the Bible. I thought there was a book (not the Dead Sea Scrolls) that had them in it. Any help would be great. Thanks.


Yes, there is the Apocrypha which is included in Catholic Bibles, but is rejected by Christians and Jews as not being from God. They are writings from the intertestiment period (eg: the period between Malachi, 420BC and the time of Jesus). Many are apocolyptic writings that were written with pseudonymous names.
http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/apo/index.htm

There is also the Pseudopigrypha, which is like the Apocrypha.
There are also a whole other bunch of writings that were not included in the Bible.
http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/index.htm
This link has some details of other writings too.

Some of the writing will have some truth, but is generally unreliable.

The Dead Sea Scrolls does contains some writings that are not included in the Bible.
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Newbie



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 12:44 am    Post subject: Re: Guys..need you help on some religious stuff please... Reply with quote

[quote="Xian"]Some of the writing will have some truth, but is generally unreliable.[quote]

Unlike the stuff that is actually in the bible?
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rapier



Joined: 16 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 1:27 am    Post subject: Re: Guys..need you help on some religious stuff please... Reply with quote

[quote="Newbie"][quote="Xian"]Some of the writing will have some truth, but is generally unreliable.
Quote:


Unlike the stuff that is actually in the bible?



True or false?
http://www.thelife.com/landing/truefalse.html

Bible doubters' theory down the drain.
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/09/10/1063191459160.html?from=storyrhs
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cubanlord



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 2:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am into reading the bible. I would like to know what the convention deemed "inappropriate" to include in the compiling of the Bible.
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rapier



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 5:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cubanlord wrote:
I am into reading the bible. I would like to know what the convention deemed "inappropriate" to include in the compiling of the Bible.


Fair bit of information here..

http://www.bible.ca/canon.htm
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anjucat



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP: You're probably thinking of the "Nag Hammadi Library".

Don't have any links; just look for Nag Hammadi, or gnostic scriptures, or something like that. Good stuff. I personally enjoyed the Apocalypse of Peter (pretty sure that was in N.H., if i remember correctly...)
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a question while we're talking about the Bible. Back home we have an old family Bible from the 19th century. The first time I opened it, the first thing I read was roughly "It is not a crime to kill a Jew. Jews think that they're doing God's work, but they are foot soldiers in the army of Satan." I've looked everywhere to find out exactly which passage it was and if/when it was removed from the modern Bible (which is infallible and fresh from God's brain to your eyes). Anyone know where I can find out more about this? Yes, I've tried Google and Wikipedia.
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