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Cohiba

Joined: 01 Feb 2005
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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 5:41 pm Post subject: KOREA HWIGHTING! (A rant) |
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Korean people endure 8+ years of mandatory English education.
There are also 30,000 whities here trying to improve their English.
Moreover, they have access to western movies and media.
With this massive, multi-billion won industry, Koreans are still unable
to properly pronounce the letter "F".
It boggles the mind. |
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seoulsucker

Joined: 05 Mar 2006 Location: The Land of the Hesitant Cutoff
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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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From what I gather, they're not trying to say the "F" when they say ȭ����. It's a butchered Konglish/hijacked word...
I feel your pain, though. I still wince everytime I hear it. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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Actually, only 12,000.
You're not one of those who complain that Koreans can't understand your pronunciation of Korean, are you? |
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SPINOZA
Joined: 10 Jun 2005 Location: $eoul
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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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It boggles the mind. |
Yes. Also, I think 'rice' will always be 'lice' and 'lazy' will always be 'ragey' and - as my coteacher reliably informed me today - the Romans spoke 'Pulgar Rattin'. |
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billybrobby

Joined: 09 Dec 2004
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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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do you consider it pretentious when english speakers pronounce words like rendezvous with a big french accent? |
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laogaiguk

Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Location: somewhere in Korea
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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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billybrobby wrote: |
do you consider it pretentious when english speakers pronounce words like rendezvous with a big french accent? |
There are so many words we mispronounce that we took from other languages. Many people don't understand me when I say karaoke in the Japanese way (I do cause I got use to saying it that way). This entire thread is stupid.
Now if they are trying to speak English, they have to pronounce it correctly. But if they have adopted this word into their language, it can be pronounced any way they see fit. |
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Mashimaro

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Location: location, location
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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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I've spent a couple of thousand hours studying korean and I still have trouble pronouncing certain sounds correctly. Does that make me stupid? |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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Mashimaro wrote: |
I've spent a couple of thousand hours studying korean and I still have trouble pronouncing certain sounds correctly. Does that make me stupid? |
No. It makes this thread really stupid. |
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SPINOZA
Joined: 10 Jun 2005 Location: $eoul
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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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Cheer up, fellas, it's not that bad. I thought it was quite a funny and not unreasonable observation. Two of my coteachers' pronunciation is excellent but they're the exception (in my humble opinion) and have lived in Canada for a year. For many Koreans, adults and kids I find, they still pronounce 'f' as 'epp-ugh', age as 'age-ee' etc etc. |
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I_Am_Wrong
Joined: 14 Sep 2004 Location: whatever
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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 11:34 pm Post subject: |
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Well, if you weren't so ignorant and lazy, maybe you could study some Korea. By doing this, you would discover that there is no F in Korean! When people say "hwaiting," they are say a konglish version of an English word.
Oh and, by the way, mandatory English Education starting in Elementary School is extremely recent. It's only been in the last 2-3 years that they didn't start studying English in the public school classroom in Middle School. Also, ask any Korean over 30 about what their class sizes were like and what English teaching methods were like. Maybe you should learn a little bit about the country you're in Jackass.
From now on I expect you to pronounce all words imported into English with their correct pronunciation. Let's see...over 10,000 words in English were adopted from French. Maybe you should learn to pronounce them correctly mofo |
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JAWINSEOUL
Joined: 19 Nov 2005
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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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All teachers should learn Korean. It will give them a better, less ignorant, view on phonics. |
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itaewonguy

Joined: 25 Mar 2003
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Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 12:09 am Post subject: |
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Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
Actually, only 12,000.
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you forgetting about the other 20.000 ILLEGALS! running around the country! |
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HapKi

Joined: 10 Dec 2004 Location: TALL BUILDING-SEOUL
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Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 12:20 am Post subject: |
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The rants on phonics are well taken. However, even if Koreans pronounced it perfectly (with the hard "f" and a soft, blended "t") the word appropriateness is still what bothers me more. And I can't believe no one has mentioned it yet. "Fighting?" Come on. Koreans have a word for "to fight"- ��- and no Koreans I've ever talked to knew that what they were yelling was the equivalent to "lets stop this game and start throwing punches."
When foreign opposing teams see that written 20 meters long in the bleachers, who knows what they're thinking? |
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Hater Depot
Joined: 29 Mar 2005
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Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 2:54 am Post subject: |
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Many Koreans don't know that ȭ���� comes from an English word. My students just learned today that ��Ÿ�� comes from English. |
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peemil

Joined: 09 Feb 2003 Location: Koowoompa
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Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 2:57 am Post subject: |
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do you consider it pretentious when english speakers pronounce words like rendezvous with a big french accent? |
Yep- Get your hand off it. |
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