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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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 Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 9:30 pm Post subject: Preston Manning's back! (kind of) |
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This is a bit of a surprise.
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Manning eyes premiership after Klein hints he may leave early
Last Updated Sat, 01 Apr 2006 23:27:16 EST
CBC News
Leadership hopefuls, including surprise candidate Preston Manning, set their sights on the Alberta premier's office on Saturday, just a day after Ralph Klein hinted he may retire earlier than expected.
Klein told delegates to the Conservative party's annual convention in Calgary that he was mulling his political future after delegates gave him just 55 per cent support in a leadership review.
Former Reform leader Preston Manning says he would run for the premiership, if invited.
Klein originally said he would remain at his job for another two years. Now, the premier says he will take a few days to consider what's best "for the party, the province and for me."
That was enough of a hint to open the gates to a host of leadership hopefuls, including the biggest surprise, Manning, former leader of the defunct Reform party.
Manning shocked many delegates Saturday by expressing interest in Klein's job.
Manning, the son of Social Credit Premier Ernest Manning, said he would need to be persuaded that entering a Tory leadership race would be best for the party, the province and his family, as broad a hint that he would enter the race, if invited, of course.
Manning move surprises other premier candidates
Manning's intentions startled declared leadership hopefuls, including former Alberta treasurer Jim Dinning and Ted Morton, B.C. member of the legislature for Foothills-Rocky View, who have spent years with the Reform and Alliance movements.
Morton said he suspects Manning's interest is not that serious, noting he would have to give up the lifestyle of an academic for the "griminess of trench warfare" in politics.
Another hopeful in the leadership race, former cabinet minister Lyle Oberg, has openly questioned Klein's plans to stay in the job. But Oberg told CBC News that the vote results have nothing to do with a political showdown.
"This is purely about the length of the leadership race and I think people saw that in the question, that it was the length of the leadership race, and they've decided that two years would not be good for the party and would not be good for the province, and I agree with that."
The results of the delegate vote took the party, and Klein, by surprise.
"I didn't get the result that I had anticipated, but I am going to meet with my staff and my caucus, of course, and members of the party, and determine what I am going to do," Klein told reporters on Saturday. "I will have something concrete for you next week, mid-week."
Klein was "shocked ... and a little hurt" at hearing the results, said his spokeswoman, Marisa Etmanski.
However, the premier said he still considers it a vote of confidence.
Ralph Klein addresses the Alberta Progressive Conservative convention in Calgary on Friday. (Canadian Press)
"I'm grateful for that," he added.
Klein has led Alberta's Tories to four majority governments in the past 13 years and has received approval ratings as high as 97 per cent.
Klein seeks support for keeping his post
During his speech Friday night to delegates at the party's annual convention in Calgary, Klein seemed to plead for his political future, asking the party faithful to let him retain his job for another two years.
"I ask you to give me, one final time, your endorsement to achieve what I have laid out for the duration of this mandate," Klein said.
"If you see fit to give me that support, I pledge to you that I will work as hard as I possibly can to bring continued honour to this party and continued prosperity to this province we love."
Ty Lund, the government services minister, said Klein deserves to be supported because he has eliminated Alberta's debt and has built the province into an economic powerhouse. |
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laogaiguk
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea
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| Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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| That guy on AirFarce must be happy. REFOOOOORM! |
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gonegold
Joined: 23 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 1:09 am Post subject: Manning eyes Klines job. |
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| All that needs to be said about that is....No, No, No. |
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Hollywoodaction
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| Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 1:00 am Post subject: |
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| laogaiguk wrote: |
| That guy on AirFarce must be happy. REFOOOOORM! |
 I thought the same thing when I saw the subject line. REFOOOOORM!!!! |
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canuckistan
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Joined: 17 Jun 2003
Location: Training future GS competitors.....
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| Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 6:20 am Post subject: |
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| All that's ever stood out for me with Preston Manning is that squeaky little voice saying "Kweeee-beck" |
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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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| Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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Apparently someone has already raised $50,000 for his campaign in the past three days. He hasn't even declared his candidacy and he's already the front-runner.
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Manning groundswell building
Supporters launch 'Preston for Premier' campaign in Calgary
Jason Fekete and Tony Seskus, Calgary Herald
Published: Friday, April 07, 2006
EDMONTON - Reform party founder Preston Manning would instantly become the heavy favourite to win the Tory party leadership and succeed Ralph Klein as premier should he enter the race, a new Edmonton Journal-Calgary Herald poll reveals.
Manning, 63, has more than double the support of early front-runner Jim Dinning among Albertans, and would immediately leapfrog the former provincial treasurer as the odds-on choice to replace Klein if he seeks the party reins, says the survey conducted by Leger Marketing.
"Clearly there's another front-runner and that's Preston Manning," Leger vice-president Marc Tremblay said Thursday.
"He's got a support base with the population and now it's just a matter of whether he wants to capitalize on that."
Indeed, Manning has about the same amount of support as Dinning and former cabinet minister Lyle Oberg combined.
Of 900 Albertans surveyed across the province on Tuesday and Wednesday, 23 per cent said they would vote for Manning if they could select the next provincial Conservative leader.
By comparison, 11 per cent selected Dinning and nine per cent chose Oberg.
None of the other four contenders polled did better than three per cent.
Interestingly, Manning's dominance also spreads to Alberta Progressive Conservatives supporters, with 28 per cent of Tory followers questioned backing the political icon, versus 16 per cent for Dinning and nine per cent for Oberg.
Political observers say there is little doubt about the groundswell of support building for a Manning campaign, should he join the race.
"There's no question he would be the leader," said David Taras, political analyst at the University of Calgary.
"If you're Dinning, you know you're in the fight of your life and he has to build profile in the public very, very quickly."
The other four candidates seeking Klein's crown include recently departed cabinet ministers Ed Stelmach and Dave Hancock, as well as Edmonton candidate Mark Norris and backbench Tory MLA Ted Morton.
There was a large undecided vote, with 38 per cent of all respondents and 33 per cent of PC backers saying they didn't know who they'd support.
However, should Manning enter the race, the entire dynamic of the contest will change, Taras noted.
"All bets are off," he said Thursday night.
"The reality of three weeks ago has been turned on its head and Dinning is wondering whether or not he got hit by a truck -- and we'll find out very soon."
Manning, the son of Alberta's longest-serving premier, mused during last weekend's Alberta Tory convention in Calgary that he's "open to being persuaded" to run for Klein's throne.
"A lot of people have asked me about that," he told reporters. "I may be persuaded that it should be done and could be done."
Taras said Manning has a lot of pluses: instant name recognition, political pedigree, ready-made support and access to campaign dollars.
"There's a lot of attributes. The most important is name recognition," Taras added. "This is someone whose father was premier and the Manning name means an awful lot in this province. And he is deeply respected."
Manning's popularity would also translate into more electoral success for the Tories compared to Dinning, Oberg or any of the other leadership aspirants, according to the Leger poll.
When asked which party they'd vote for with Manning at the Tory helm, 51 per cent of respondents said they'd back the Conservatives, compared to 17 per cent for Kevin Taft's Liberals and seven per cent for Brian Mason's NDP.
The Green party, with four per cent, and Paul Hinman's Alberta Alliance, with three per cent, round out the mainstream parties.
As Tory leader, Dinning would garner 46 per cent support from Albertans, while a Conservative party under Oberg would nab 42 per cent.
Last week, Dinning said he would welcome Manning into the race, although his candidacy could erode support for all the other candidates.
"This is one of the finest pieces of political real estate in all of North America," Dinning told reporters. "It's bound to be a highly competitive race and I welcome the competition."
An examination of the data reveals Manning has significant leads in all areas of the province. In Edmonton, where 284 respondents were surveyed, Manning snatched 18 per cent, versus Oberg's 11 per cent and Dinning's eight per cent.
In Calgary -- Dinning's home base -- Manning has the support of 26 per cent of 288 people polled, compared to Dinning's 15 per cent and Oberg's seven per cent.
"It's a little surprising because that is Dinning's stronghold," said pollster Tremblay.
And in the rest of the province, the former Reform leader received 24 per cent support, while Dinning grabbed 10 per cent and Oberg nabbed eight per cent.
"Manning has support not only in the cities, but rural areas," Tremblay said. "The magic formula is two out of the three (regions)."
Stelmach, Hancock and Norris had their best results in Edmonton, with about five per cent support, while Morton's strongest figures were in rural areas.
Support appears to be building for a Manning run at the Alberta Conservative leadership. On Wednesday, former Calgary alderman John Schmal and financial adviser Steve Syms launched a "Preston for Premier" campaign, while former Reform MPs say they've heard from a large swath of Albertans energized by the prospect and wondering how they can support Manning.
The Leger poll was conducted throughout Alberta, with a margin of error 3.3 percentage points, 19 times out of 20, or 4.8 per cent among PC supporters. The margin of error in both Calgary and Edmonton was 5.8 per cent, and 5.4 per cent in the rest of the province. |
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Bulsajo
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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All I can really say about Alberta's leadership race is- who cares?
It's flush with oil revenues, and politically has the luxury of blaming anything that might be unpopular on the feds, Quebeckers, and East coast sponges.
A tic-tac-toe playing chicken could govern that province. |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 6:47 am Post subject: |
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"Reeeefffffforrrrrrrm!"
I can't get it out of my head. |
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The Man known as The Man
Joined: 29 Mar 2003
Location: 3 cheers for Ted Haggard oh yeah!
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| Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 11:05 am Post subject: |
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| canuckistan wrote: |
| All that's ever stood out for me with Preston Manning is that squeaky little voice saying "Kweeee-beck" |
Thankfully he led the charge that wrcked Charlottetown Accord |
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The Man known as The Man
Joined: 29 Mar 2003
Location: 3 cheers for Ted Haggard oh yeah!
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| Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 12:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Bulsajo wrote: |
All I can really say about Alberta's leadership race is- who cares?
It's flush with oil revenues, and politically has the luxury of blaming anything that might be unpopular on the feds, Quebeckers, and East coast sponges.
A tic-tac-toe playing chicken could govern that province. |
Whinging left-wing donkeys don't like to point out that Saskatchewan went from have-not to being a have province.
Witht he Maritimer culture of defeatism, they should be thankful Alberta is paying their part of the tab. |
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Moldy Rutabaga
Joined: 01 Jul 2003
Location: Ansan, Korea
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| Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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The old Reform party and the Alberta Conservatives are not the same thing. The party that Manning's father ran was defeated by the provincial Conservatives in the early 70s. It's rather a far-fetched idea that somehow Manning can take over the party. Ralph, despite the jokes, has been more of a pragmatist and less of a right-wing hardliner.
It irks me that the media jumped on ads making fun of Chretien's facial tics and bad pronunciation, but Manning is fair game because he doesn't look like JFK and his French isn't fluent. He's an intelligent man. But I doubt he's serious about running, and wonder what he's been smoking if he thinks he'll automatically be chosen by the Conservatives.
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