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Benbby
Joined: 06 Feb 2006
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Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 2:07 pm Post subject: English and Chinese people and languages |
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While teaching ESL in Canada I have heard students call Canada an English country. The correct term is supposed to be English speaking country. Canadians are native English speakers which would make Canada an English country. But how English? An English country in the way India is not, but like India because it too is an English speaking country. I think this is how many Koreans see not just Canada but the US and Australia also.
This works with Chinese it seems as Taiwan is sometimes called Chinese Taipei because they are Chinese and speak Chinese. People often stress "Mainland" China for political reasons, like there is another China, called Taiwan. But to most of us, China means China, the huge country, no qualifier is required.
Asians seem to consider the colonies of Britain very English. When I go to Korea I shall have to find out more about this. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 2:20 pm Post subject: |
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Asians seem to consider the colonies of Britain very English |
I think you are over-estimating how much Koreans know about or even care about why Canadians, Americans, Australians etc speak English. |
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Newbie

Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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And to a good many of Koreans, especially the older ones, we are ALL AMERICAN. There is no England, Canada etc.
Heck, ask all the kids in a Korean class where English come from and most of them will say USA  |
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coolsage
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Location: The overcast afternoon of the soul
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Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, Korean students are so well-informed about the world that exists beyond this peninsula. Oh, and (a Canadian should know this) about 25% of Canadians have French as their first language. |
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Smee

Joined: 24 Dec 2004 Location: Jeollanam-do
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 2:15 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, but Korea has four distinct seasons. |
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Hater Depot
Joined: 29 Mar 2005
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 3:02 am Post subject: |
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It's so amazing to blow someone's mind just by telling them that other countries have four seasons.
Personally I am waiting for it to be discovered that Korea actually has a fifth season not found anywhere else. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 3:25 am Post subject: |
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It's so amazing to blow someone's mind just by telling them that other countries have four seasons.
Personally I am waiting for it to be discovered that Korea actually has a fifth season not found anywhere else.
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At the risk of proving to students that all foreigners are fools, I insist on telling my students that Korea does have 5 seasons. Rainy season is different enough from spring and summer for me to consider it a season of its own. It never fails to get the how-can-you-be-so-stupid-look. [/i] |
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Benbby
Joined: 06 Feb 2006
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Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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Even Hong Kong is considered another China in the media, I read this in the Vancouver Sun newspaper this morning. So we have three Chinas with Chinese people.
What nations and people know is their perception, if it is incomplete, that is valid and very interesting. It is a story. ESL is education and both will go on forever so we can continually explain this. Perfect in an insular country like Korea. A Korean student told me yesterday that Koreans score very low in international English tests.
That's the first I heard Koreans think all English speaking people come from the USA. In Canada, Koreans seem quite aware of England. |
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red headed stranger

Joined: 12 Apr 2005 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
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It's so amazing to blow someone's mind just by telling them that other countries have four seasons.
Personally I am waiting for it to be discovered that Korea actually has a fifth season not found anywhere else.
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At the risk of proving to students that all foreigners are fools, I insist on telling my students that Korea does have 5 seasons. Rainy season is different enough from spring and summer for me to consider it a season of its own. It never fails to get the how-can-you-be-so-stupid-look. [/i] |
I think Korea may have six seasons. Yellow dust feel like a season all its own sometimes. |
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red headed stranger

Joined: 12 Apr 2005 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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Benbby wrote: |
That's the first I heard Koreans think all English speaking people come from the USA. In Canada, Koreans seem quite aware of England. |
Same here. In fact have haave had a quite a few Koreans tell me that the reason that English is spoken in the US is because most Americans are of English descent. |
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