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spmorley



Joined: 17 Sep 2005

PostPosted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 5:49 am    Post subject: How to get on US Base?? Not American Reply with quote

I hear that on the US Base there is awesome shopping for international food, and cheap alcohol Exclamation . How do you get on if your not American? Any thoughts?
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coffeeman



Joined: 24 Nov 2005
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 6:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Welcome To Korea!" You must be a new guy asking that question.
Actually, there are some strategies that have worked very well for Non-Americans to get on the base.

Method #1 - You're timing is good because April is student protest month. Every year in April the university students in Korea have riots. The U.S. miltary offers sanctuary against these dangerous and unstable students. Just tell the guard at the gate that you are baing chased by anti-foreigner Korean university students throwing gas-filled bottles at you and they'll let you in.

Method #2 - It doesn't matter whether you are a guy or gal, just put on a sexy dress and make-up and ask the guards at the gate if you can come into the on-base nightclub. You can get free drinks if you come on a Tuesday 'cause it's lady's night.


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Bulsajo



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When my dad came to visit me he was still a serving officer in the RCA (and with proper ID to that effect).
Now, Canada and the US have reciprocal agreements on facilities-sharing (sort of a joke really, because there's nothing on a Canadian base that US personnel would even consider crossing the street for, and rightly so). It is supposed to be world-wide and has held true in the Middle East, Europe and North America that I am personally aware of- Cdn Service members with ID get base access and PX, gym, hotel, etc. on post.
But, not in Korea, apparently.
We tried to go on Youngsan main post, and the Korean guard looked at my Dad's military ID and said, "Sorry, you're not American. No access."
That didn't go over too well and my Dad asked to talk to the guy's supervisor, who was American (an MP, if I recall correctly).
He got the same answer "American personnel and their guests only".
When my Dad reminded him of the reciprocal agreement, the guy simply said "It doesn't apply here."
So, no dice.

Bear in mind that this occurred before 9/11, and draw your own conclusions as to whether access is easier now or not.

I'm not posting this as a rant on how Americans aren't honouring their signed agreements (it wasn't a big deal, we were walking around Itaewon towards the museum and he thought he might like to pop in and check out the facilities, we ended up eating over at the USO- not great but it served its purpose),
I'm simply pointing out the realities of base access.

I think most non-newbies know this, maybe there should be an FAQ on this topic.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
How do you get on if your not American? Any thoughts?


Perhaps an M-16 and a couple of strategically placed grenades?
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Grotto



Joined: 21 Mar 2004

PostPosted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 6:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
How do you get on if your not American? Any thoughts?


Join the American armed forces Question Laughing
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Imbroglio



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: Behind the wheel of a large automobile

PostPosted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 6:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found this for you.


http://www.goarmy.com
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red headed stranger



Joined: 12 Apr 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Due to black marketing, there are a lot of extra rules in place about PX/Commissary privileges. If if you are in the US military, you may be able to get on post, but you have a whole other set of paperwork to go through to get a ration card that you have to present at the PX and Commissaries that keeps track of your purchases. My Dad is retired from the US Navy, and therefore has the right access many of the facilities on post, but he still has to jump through a lot of hoops before he can use the PX/ Commissary. I am not surprised that some of our allies have a hard time getting on post.

Unusual buying habits or going over ones ration limit can get you an investigatory visit from the MPs.

That said, if you have a friend with post access, they can sign you on post and you can still do things like go to the restaurants.
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got on by tagging along in a group with some of my American friends. They have Chinese food in there.
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jinglejangle



Joined: 19 Feb 2005
Location: Far far far away.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easiest way is just to adopt a GI and get him/her to take you on post from time to time.

It'll be good for the GI as well, since most seriously need to get out more, and to spend some time with non military types when in Korea.

Or you could marry one.
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lawyertood



Joined: 17 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul, Incheon and the World--working undercover for the MOJ

PostPosted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you still can get base access privileges by joining the American Chamber of Commerce, filling out some additional paperwork and paying some annual fee. A Canadian friend did this about five years ago. No PX privileges, however.
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RACETRAITOR wrote:
I got on by tagging along in a group with some of my American friends. They have Chinese food in there.


And Taco Bell!
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BigBlackEquus



Joined: 05 Jul 2005
Location: Lotte controls Asia with bad chocolate!

PostPosted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, the irony of this topic.
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HapKi



Joined: 10 Dec 2004
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 1:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A Canadian roommate I once had volunteered at the Red Cross on base in Youngsan. He was able to get on for weekly volunteer work.
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animalbirdfish



Joined: 04 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 2:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RACETRAITOR wrote:
I got on by tagging along in a group with some of my American friends. They have Chinese food in there.


Wait a second. I'm American and as far as I know, I can't just walk onto the base. I assume you mean 'GI Americans' here?
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Porter_Goss



Joined: 26 Mar 2006
Location: The Wrong Side of Right

PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

animalbirdfish wrote:
RACETRAITOR wrote:
I got on by tagging along in a group with some of my American friends. They have Chinese food in there.


Wait a second. I'm American and as far as I know, I can't just walk onto the base. I assume you mean 'GI Americans' here?


I'm guessing that's what he meant. I don't know about GIs, but Officers can sponser four people at a time for base visits.
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