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Israel - the IDF's shame

 
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 4:28 am    Post subject: Israel - the IDF's shame Reply with quote

I've been following these cases for a long time. It must be so frustrating to lose a family member, and then have a powerful government and military machine lie to you and make your child appear to be some kind of terrorist. One of these British men died trying to carry small children to safety. He'd seen a boy and 2 girls paralyzed by fear as they were deliberately targeted by IDF gunmen. I wonder if the British government will have the guts to push for justice...I doubt it, they don't have a good track record of standing up to 'allies.'

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,1750051,00.html

This week Tom Hurndall's mother will testify at the inquest into the death of her son, shot by an Israeli soldier in Gaza. She wants the truth to be told - and asks why, when her son was helping children avoid gunfire, he was left fatally wounded.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The inquest has found that Tom Hurndall was deliberately targetted and killed by the Israeli military - despite being unarmed and trying to carry a small child out of the line of fire.

There is a culture of impunity in the IDF, where young Israeli soldiers are encouraged to kill civilians knowing they will almost certainly never have to face justice.


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He said Tom had seen a group of ten to 15 children playing on a mound of sand, and noticed that bullets were hitting the ground between them. The children fled, but several were overcome with fear and could not move.

"Tom went to take one girl out of the line of fire, which he did successfully, but when he went back, as he knelt down [to collect another], he was shot."

Mr Hurndall said the Israelis had initially admitted someone had been shot, but claimed it had been a gunman who had opened fire first.

After photographs of Tom having been shot in the head emerged, the Israeli military later admitted that Hayb - a sentry who had won prizes for marksmanship - had shot him using telescopic sights.

"They just lied continuously," Mr Hurndall's father said. "It was a case of them shooting civilians and then making up a story. And they were not used to being challenged."

There had been a "general policy" for soldiers to be able to shoot civilians in that area without fear of reprisals, he added.

Although Hayb had been sentenced, the issue of the "culture" within the Israeli army had not been addressed, he said. "This goes much higher up the chain."

The ten-strong jury at the inquest into the death of Mr Hurndall, a Manchester Metropolitan University student, also expressed its "dismay with the lack of cooperation from the Israeli authorities".

Mr Hurndall was shot a mile away from where the award-winning cameraman James Miller had died three weeks beforehand. Last week, a jury ruled the Israeli defence force had deliberately killed the 34-year-old during the incident in May 2003.


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http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,,1750916,00.html


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cry me a river.

So the idiot got popped trying to save a future stone thrower. BFD.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a Darwin award in your future, Riposte.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The attorney general was last night called on to seek war crimes charges against five Israeli officers after an inquest jury found that a soldier under their command intentionally killed a British peace activist in Gaza.


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Michael Mansfield QC, who represented the family at the inquest, said: "Make no mistake about it, the Israeli defence force have today been found culpable by this jury of murder."


http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,,1751368,00.html

I would love to see the government take this outrageous matter further, but I doubt much will come of it. The papers that have the real influence (like the Sun and the Times) are reporting this, but don't appear to be pushing for action.

Until we get "The Sun says No to using British lads for target practice!" nothing much will happen. And this is not likely - as Murdoch and his ilk will see no financial benefit in this one - not like his 2002-3 global campaign for a war in Iraq where he assured us that the war would result in "oil for $20 a barrel!" - remember that?!
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