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laogaiguk
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
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 Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 4:17 pm Post subject: How to Adopt a Baby from China |
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How to Adopt a Baby from China
What do you guys think of this? With so many children back home who need adopting (and instead usually become criminals of some sort, or a drain on our system) why do people go through all this trouble for a kid in China. It's not that what they are doing is wrong, they are still helping a child (especially from a poor area where family is so important), but there are so many children here who need help from HORRIBLE lives too... |
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Demophobe
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All orphaned children are equal in their need for good parents and a home. Adopt form wherever you like; it's still doing a good thing for a child. It's got nothing to do with patriotic duty, or service to your own countryfolk. It's about giving a chance to a child, no matter where they are from.
A Chinese orphan or an American orphan. Which do you think has a better chance of having a life equal to (whatever that may mean) that of a child with parents?
Where are the stats on "usually become criminals of some sort, or a drain on our system"?
I would say that an American orphan still has better odds than a Chinese orphan, but I am no expert. |
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crazylemongirl
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| Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Because in the west there is a preference to keep the kids with their family (no matter how screwed up)... |
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Gord
Joined: 25 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 7:16 pm Post subject: Re: How to Adopt a Baby from China |
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| laogaiguk wrote: |
| What do you guys think of this? With so many children back home who need adopting (and instead usually become criminals of some sort, or a drain on our system) why do people go through all this trouble for a kid in China. |
I don't know about the U.S., but in Canada the wait time is in years. A friend of mine is on a waiting list and has been told that five years is an average wait time.
Further still, a dispropotionate number of children up for adoption in the North American system are children with issues as they are children of mothers who dabbled in drugs during the pregnancy or taken from unfit families. In contrast, most Chinese babies are generally healthy and unwanted for economic reasons. |
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Corporal
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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Yeah, that.
Most parents want to start out with a baby and not a kid that's already ready for elementary school by the time they get it. |
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laogaiguk
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
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| Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 8:02 pm Post subject: Re: How to Adopt a Baby from China |
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| Gord wrote: |
| laogaiguk wrote: |
| What do you guys think of this? With so many children back home who need adopting (and instead usually become criminals of some sort, or a drain on our system) why do people go through all this trouble for a kid in China. |
I don't know about the U.S., but in Canada the wait time is in years. A friend of mine is on a waiting list and has been told that five years is an average wait time.
Further still, a dispropotionate number of children up for adoption in the North American system are children with issues as they are children of mothers who dabbled in drugs during the pregnancy or taken from unfit families. In contrast, most Chinese babies are generally healthy and unwanted for economic reasons. |
Ok, I can understand that. But then we are really f-ing up as a society, aren't we? But you would be surprised how many are not screwed up? Trust me, I know the entire social services crap in Canada atleast. Personally, I do think children shoudl be taken sooner so we don't have this problem. Actually, I think there should be parenting licences, though I have no idea how to go about that yet. Can't wait for science to come up with a way to sterilze people at birth and later 100% reverse it with a prescription  |
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Tiger Beer
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 9:17 pm Post subject: Re: How to Adopt a Baby from China |
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| laogaiguk wrote: |
How to Adopt a Baby from China
What do you guys think of this? With so many children back home who need adopting (and instead usually become criminals of some sort, or a drain on our system) why do people go through all this trouble for a kid in China. It's not that what they are doing is wrong, they are still helping a child (especially from a poor area where family is so important), but there are so many children here who need help from HORRIBLE lives too... |
in the U.S., its the extremely chronic drug problems of the ravishing kind (crack, meth, u name it).. the stats on 'attention deficit disorder' each year entering the public school systems is staggering.. mostly drug-related parents of the hardcore kind.
i wouldn't want to adopt a kid anywhere in north america myself either. this isn't just urban inner-city stuff either.. my parents are educators in small-town michigan.. and the stats, issues, and problems with epidemic drug problems and its effects on most kids born the last 15-20 years is fairly staggering.
also the waiting lines and just the fact that few babies are available that are all that young.. plus its well-known kids already have most of their personality and traits set in stone for the rest of their lives from their first 4 years. so you're most likely going to get one-messed up kid with some behavior problems when they're 8,10,12 or whatever.
Speaking of adopting kids in China.. I took a flight from Hong Kong to Seattle years ago.. and the plane was filled with a good solid 20-30 extremely happy western (amost entirely white) couples with their new chinese baby.. a few years back the US passed a law that if u were to adopt a baby from abroad.. you had to go to that country and go through some procedure (see and experience the soon-to-be-adopted baby's country-of-birth), etc. Quite an experience to be a passenger on that plane. |
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