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Using Romania to emmigrate to France later on

 
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mithridates



Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency

PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 1:22 am    Post subject: Using Romania to emmigrate to France later on Reply with quote

During my last day in China the last time I was there I was talking with a security guard who is only a bit younger than me, and he likes AD&D, European history, doesn't hate Japan etc. and told me that basically even though he was born Chinese he feels like his soul is occidental/western. His English was okay, but the language he really wants to learn is French and that's where he wants to live later on. Security guards don't make all that much money though, especially in China.
I suggested that maybe a good idea would be to look into saving his money for a year or two, and then going to Romania as after 2007 it'll be part of the EU and maybe that could be a foot in the door, considering how much cheaper it is, that Romanian is a Romance language and maybe after a few years of living there he could get EU citizenship and then move to France or wherever else if he wants. I told him that was just an idea off the top of my head though and I'm not sure if that's really possible.
So...is it possible?
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soviet_man



Joined: 23 Apr 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 3:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Acquiring Romanian citizenship takes a minimum of 5 years, but potentially up to 7 years (or more) depending on the marital status of the applicant (eg. married to a Romanian or not). There is also a Romanian language ability requirement.

So no, Romania is not a simple citizenship to acquire for EU purposes.

UK citizenship can be acquired in as few as 3 years, if married to a UK citizen. To me that would seem a faster channel into the EU.

The Prince of Monaco (near France) is also able to apparently grant Citizenship of Monaco (by decree) to people he deems worthy. Not sure of the feasibility of that however...
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Wangja



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isn't it 5 years (as a physically present resident) for the UK?
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Leslie Cheswyck



Joined: 31 May 2003
Location: University of Western Chile

PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He should start learning Arabic. By the time he gets there ...
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baldrick



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wangja wrote:
Isn't it 5 years (as a physically present resident) for the UK?


5 years if not married.
3 years if married.

http://www.ukimmigration.com/family/uk_citizenship.htm

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During the three-year period you must not have been outside the UK for more than 270 days (approximately 9 months)


In other words, in the first two years, you don't have to even be in the UK for about 9 months.

The Romania option sounds like a tough route if you ask me!
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Wangja



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks a lot for that Baldrick.

(Sorry to the OP for my unintentional hi-jack).
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mithridates



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hm, I see no hijack. -0-

What other fairly cheap romance-language-using countries would there be then? Andorra? Well, not really a full member though. Maybe there is no easy way in for a Chinese security guard that likes French.
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Tiger Beer



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 12:48 am    Post subject: Re: Using Romania to emmigrate to France later on Reply with quote

mithridates wrote:
During my last day in China the last time I was there I was talking with a security guard who is only a bit younger than me, and he likes AD&D, European history, doesn't hate Japan etc. and told me that basically even though he was born Chinese he feels like his soul is occidental/western. His English was okay, but the language he really wants to learn is French and that's where he wants to live later on. Security guards don't make all that much money though, especially in China.
I suggested that maybe a good idea would be to look into saving his money for a year or two, and then going to Romania as after 2007 it'll be part of the EU and maybe that could be a foot in the door, considering how much cheaper it is, that Romanian is a Romance language and maybe after a few years of living there he could get EU citizenship and then move to France or wherever else if he wants. I told him that was just an idea off the top of my head though and I'm not sure if that's really possible.
So...is it possible?


Wouldn't work.

Most of these eastern-oriented european countries have E.U. restrictions on all of their populations just moving westward into Europe.

For example.. Poland.. they were admitted to the E.U... but have extremely strict regulations in place so they don't just all move over to Germany for economic reasons.

If the Chinese guy really wants to get to France.. maybe he could apply to study French there and just kinda slip in through the cracks from there.
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Wrench



Joined: 07 Apr 2005

PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wants to be a french citizen.. Thats easy, Join the French Foreign legion. 5 Year contract, no french required. After 3 years you can apply for French citizenship. Or if he get shot/injured its almost guaranteed citizenship. You make ok money and you get to travel the world.
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cwemory



Joined: 14 Jan 2006
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps he could consider one of Frances overseas departments or territories before entering metropolitan France. Guadeloupe, Martinique, French Guiana, or Reunion should be cheaper and easier to enter than metropolitan France.
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