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Nowhere Man



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 4:48 am    Post subject: The 10 Commandments Reply with quote

http://www.ethicalatheist.com/docs/ten_commandments.html

1. Thou SHALT NOT believe all thou art told.
2. Thou SHALT seek knowledge and truth constantly.
3. Thou SHALT educate thy fellow man in the Laws of Science.
4. Thou SHALT NOT forget the atrocities committed in the name of god.
5. Thou SHALT leave valuable contributions for future generations.
6. Thou SHALT live in peace with thy fellow man.
7. Thou SHALT live this one life thou hast to its fullest.
8. Thou SHALT follow a Personal Code of Ethics.
9. Thou SHALT maintain a strict separation between Church and State.
10. Thou SHALT support those who follow these commandments.
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Demophobe



Joined: 17 May 2004

PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 4:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the laugh. All the hate stuff...really was getting serious around here.

Love that "personal code of ethics" one. I think J.W. Gacy even had that! Manson for sure!

Laughing
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Nowhere Man



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 5:30 am    Post subject: ... Reply with quote

Um, Ok.

Question

Manson had a code of ethics... so... what?
Technically, going on what I know of his "ethics", he considered himself a "Christian".

Is it bad to have a code of ethics?

Torquemada had a code of ethics...
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 5:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I enjoyed those as well. Except for #5. I prefer to do all the big stuff now and leave nothing for future generations to do. I figure they will just be a bunch of talentless drones and if we don't do the heavy lifting now, they won't be able to do it and it will never get done. As they say, If you want something done right, do it yourself.
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Nowhere Man



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 6:11 am    Post subject: ... Reply with quote

That is the trend.

I don't really plan to do anything.

Just pull rank on the young 'uns about how we had to play Pong.

And LIKED it.
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flotsam



Joined: 28 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 6:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Esteemed OP,

Now look, you may be writing in response to that post about Good Friday, and all well and good, but how the hell is this kind of shyte any different than the crappy kind of poetry that Yu Bum Suk(whose non-religious posts I admire) posts?

I, a humanist agnostic, don't like it when dunderheaded Christians or other religionists spout their crap online, on the street corner or on the written page. However, I expect it from them(the dunderheaded religionists, mind you), and more importantly, respect their right to express themselves freely(no matter how dunderheadedly they go about it) and most importantly, will allow posts like the Good Friday one to go unharassed because, A) They are just using metaphor, no matter how blindly they employ it and believe in it, to conceptualize the same conundrums we encounter. and B) Ultimately, as a humanist, I believe that the issues that matter most to us all are more similar than different and we could find a lot of common ground if we just stopped nitpicking on matters of metaphysics and symbology.

The Buddha was a fine model for us all in this realm of debate: When questioned on matters of eschatology, he remained silent. When questioned on matters of the division between body and soul(which distinction is essential for a redemption/afterlife based religious theory--or the opposite--and ulitmately, and ironically, in our Western enculturation can more accurately be traced back to Descartes, not the Bible) he remained silent.

Why?

In our shared world--it don't matter a *beep*.

Now, the dunderheaded religionists will disagree and say it does(they may also assert the world is only 6,000 years old--these people are obviously confused, misguided or mentally challenged, be patient with them if they are good at heart, disregard them if they are twots, sic.) and they fall into the demographic of people to whom you should apply the rule:

Never argue with a drunk or a fool.

But the vast, vast majority of people who celebrate monotheism are most likely closer to you than are the non-religionist poseurs now sitting in the White House, exploiting Christian symbology, jargon and prophecy to further their own ends. So...get a grip and choose your targets WELL. I have a felling Mr. Yu is a lot more sound than his silly Christian ode makes him out to be. Whereas an appropriate sentence for George Bush Jr. would be crucifixion if it didn't utterly demean the symbol of sacrifice that so many of our fellow humans relate to.

However, in the end, I am assuming, that as a rational, reasonable, responsible atheist you have already thought this all out. And yet, the belligerence of your post leads me to believe that you may be a...gads...dunderheaded atheist.

Practice what you preach. Preach what makes sense. Sense what makes sense to us all.

And don't post crappy commandments that A) Make you sound like you speak for anyone but yourself. B) Suggest that the complexity of the human experience can be guided through ten rules. and C) Legitimate the idea of contextually negligent, universal fiat.

If you are a rational, reasonable, responsible atheist, you should know better.

End of song.

*Edit*: Read with sense of irony. Especially the last four paragraphs. My apologies. My bad.


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Nowhere Man



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 7:11 am    Post subject: ... Reply with quote

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However, in the end, I am assuming, that as a rational, reasonable, responsible atheist you have already thought this all out. And yet, the belligerence of your post leads me to believe that you may be a...gads...dunderheaded atheist.

Practice what you preach. Preach what makes sense. Sense what makes sense to us all.

And don't post crappy commandments that A) Make you sound like you speak for anyone but yourself. B) Suggest that the complexity of the human experience can be guided through ten rules. and C) Legitimate the idea of contextually negligent, universal fiat.

If you are a rational, reasonable, responsible atheist, you should know better.


Belligerence?

I found these on another website and found them to be interesting.

In fact, I think that I've lived by them all for a great many years before seeing them.

Perhaps you could explain which of them trouble you.

Is there one that we shouldn't do?

Which one(s)?

This is a discussion board, and I thought this worthy of discussion.

I don't exactly know what you're on about, but you do go on to accuse me of being a drunk randomly spouting. I DO take that personally, and your 2 posts that I've read don't indicate you're any more than that.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 7:37 am    Post subject: Re: The 10 Commandments Reply with quote

Nowhere Man wrote:
http://www.ethicalatheist.com/docs/ten_commandments.html

1. Thou SHALT NOT believe all thou art told.
2. Thou SHALT seek knowledge and truth constantly.
3. Thou SHALT educate thy fellow man in the Laws of Science.
4. Thou SHALT NOT forget the atrocities committed in the name of god.
5. Thou SHALT leave valuable contributions for future generations.
6. Thou SHALT live in peace with thy fellow man.
7. Thou SHALT live this one life thou hast to its fullest.
8. Thou SHALT follow a Personal Code of Ethics.
9. Thou SHALT maintain a strict separation between Church and State.
10. Thou SHALT support those who follow these commandments.


I like it!
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 5:43 pm    Post subject: Re: The 10 Commandments Reply with quote

Yeah, makes more sense than the original Ten Commandments.
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Moldy Rutabaga



Joined: 01 Jul 2003
Location: Ansan, Korea

PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
1. Thou SHALT NOT believe all thou art told.
2. Thou SHALT seek knowledge and truth constantly.
3. Thou SHALT educate thy fellow man in the Laws of Science.
4. Thou SHALT NOT forget the atrocities committed in the name of god.
5. Thou SHALT leave valuable contributions for future generations.
6. Thou SHALT live in peace with thy fellow man.
7. Thou SHALT live this one life thou hast to its fullest.
8. Thou SHALT follow a Personal Code of Ethics.
9. Thou SHALT maintain a strict separation between Church and State.
10. Thou SHALT support those who follow these commandments.

The strange thing is-- I'm a Christian and I still think these commandments are good advice. I see no essential contradiction. I don't see what the argument is about.

Ken:>
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Demophobe



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"NOTE: Freethought and tolerance obviously prohibit these from being "commandments"! Just consider them "suggestions"."

Too rich.
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