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[robot]

my korean sucks because i don't have a good enough grasp of verbs.

but i can't find any literature that clearly lays out the past, present, and future conjugations of regular and irregular verbs in detail.

anyone have any linxx to anything good? know of a textbook that covers this area sufficiently? (roadmap to korean has a bit, but i don't particularly like the rest of the book). or does anyone otherwise have any expertise on this subject? even the -yo forms would help for now.

thanks for your input.

ROBT.

[SPINOZA]

I use this: http://engdic.empas.com/

It's not 100% accurate though and doesn't appear to give ��-forms, although often the latter can be deduced from �ϴ� to �ؿ� I feel. It's decent enough that site however.

[robot]

that is an excellent site.

i'm looking for more of a list of verbs, tho. something from which i can discern the basic patterns of verb conjugation.

ROBT.

[billybrobby]

here's half of what you want:

http://www.korean-su.info/irregular.htm

here's more:

http://www.language.berkeley.edu/Korean/10/appendix_4/index.htm

i would say follow these steps:

1. learn the golden rule of korean verb declension/conjugation/whatever it's called:

The way you decide which ending to choose is based on the verb root. If the last vowel in the verb root is �� or �� then you choose the �ƿ� (polite) or �� (casual) ending. If the last vowel in the verb root is anything other than �� or ��, then you choose the ��� (polite) or �� (casual) ending.

(full description at http://www.learnkoreanlanguage.com/Korean-Verbs.html)

2. then you learn the past tense ending which is -�����. (of course it could be �Ҿ�� or ����� or some other thing depending on the golden rule)

the future tense is more problematic because there's a lot of them or none depending on who you ask. But probably the most straightfoward and generally hard to screw up is -���ſ��� (����->���ſ��� �Դ�->�����ſ���, etc.). There are other tenses for things that might happen or things that you plan to do and stuff. they generally start with -��.

3. learn how to conjugate the irregular verbs with the links above.

that's pretty bare bones, sorry

[Qinella]

I wouldn't worry too much about irregulars for now. As for regular verbs, here's the way it was explained to me.

.........\��
....��....\.....��
..........��\

The left and right sides represent what you will change �� to, and the bottom and top represent the vowel sound directly preceding ��. The diagonal line is there to show you which sounds go together.

For example: ���ߴ� --> ���߾�� (which is contracted to �����).
For example: ���� --> ���ƿ� (usually contracted to ����.)

So you can see that �� goes with �� and �� with ��. Just practice saying ����, ��� a few times to get a feel for it, and it'll become natural.

Now, that chart doesn't include �� and ��. �� will change to either �� or ��, depending on the vowel (edited typo) directly preceding it.

For example: ���ߴ� --> ������. See the �� changse �� to ��. However, �� is really freakin weird and still gives me trouble sometimes.

With ��, you usually just change it to ��.

For example: ��ٸ��� --> ��ٷ���.

I just realize I didn't mention �� or ��. With both of those, you don't change anything. Just take off the �� and add �� (or another ending).

For example: ��� --> ���.

So those are just the basic rules. Another thing to keep in mind is that if the last syllable of a verb before �� has a �� on the bottom, you take off the �� and add ��.

For example: ��� --> �߿���.
For example: ���� --> ������.

Hope that is helpful for you. If you have Korean questions, Galibjim is a great place to post them. The people there, especially Doggyji, are really helpful and knowledgeable.

Q.

[robot]

thx for the linxx and tips.

ROBT.