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How to earn W3,000/hour the slow and easy way
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 9:39 pm    Post subject: How to earn W3,000/hour the slow and easy way Reply with quote

One of my students reported today that he and his friend have part-time jobs cleaning a public bath. They have to work 9 hours on both Saturday and Sunday and earn a whopping W3,000 an hour. He said the work is not difficult but it is boring.
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indytrucks



Joined: 09 Apr 2003
Location: The Shelf

PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My students have regularly told me that working at a fast food restaurant pays 2,500 won an hour, but you get a discount on your Big Mac set. At that rate, if you worked 40 hours a week, you could afford a trip to the CGV with some friends (sans popcorn) or you could purchase that nice pink pinstriped shirt from Chasecult.

Wahoo.
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periwinkle



Joined: 08 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OMG- talk about slave labor! That's just wrong. 2.5/hour!!!!! Is there a minimum wage law here?
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mithridates



Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency

PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's why I laugh when I see a post going on about "man, Koreans are so gay because they're not even independent like (insert country) where people are cool and all live on their own in their 20s."
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jaganath69



Joined: 17 Jul 2003

PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The market pays what people will work for. Raising wages for these jobs would cause inflation and higher unemployment. Its a right of passage in most countries, I worked for a pittance in my youth and later in the UK in menial jobs with no minimum wage and yet here I am totally unscathed.
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I_Am_Wrong



Joined: 14 Sep 2004
Location: whatever

PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't agree with the above post at all. As long as there are people and companies making millions...no one should be making that low of a wage. In addition 2500won/hour is quite good compared to some countries.
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Css



Joined: 27 Sep 2004
Location: South of the river

PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 2:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How old are your students?

When I was 13/14, I was happy working for about 2000won an hour.
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indytrucks



Joined: 09 Apr 2003
Location: The Shelf

PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 2:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Css wrote:
How old are your students?

When I was 13/14, I was happy working for about 2000won an hour.


Anywhere from 18-24, usually. The ones that told me about fast food jobs had them when they were in high school.
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Mr. Pink



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: China

PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 2:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Css wrote:
How old are your students?

When I was 13/14, I was happy working for about 2000won an hour.


Ouch...when I was in high school the min. wage was $5 an hour and that was pretty pathetic. By the time I was 18 I had a part time job making over $10 an hour, that was considered really good at the time.

2500 won is nothing. Seriously, $2 an hour min. wage is just not worth the time and effort. It is also no wonder some girls go into prostitution...
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Universalis



Joined: 17 Nov 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jaganath69 wrote:
The market pays what people will work for. Raising wages for these jobs would cause inflation and higher unemployment. Its a right of passage in most countries, I worked for a pittance in my youth and later in the UK in menial jobs with no minimum wage and yet here I am totally unscathed.


The market has been rigged by a population policy that was set in to motion with lots of help from Korean big businesses who want a large labor pool. That keeps wages down and drives Koreans to work harder to find and keep their jobs. A stroke of brilliance...

These are huge multi-national companies making first-world profits yet paying second-world wages. Korean people work damn hard and deserve a better pay scale.

Brian
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matthews_world



Joined: 15 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Government mandated minimum wage here in Korea is around 5,000won per hour. Please keep in mind there are few, if none at all, tip jobs here in Korea where workers could make extra money. That's the way it is.
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I_Am_Wrong



Joined: 14 Sep 2004
Location: whatever

PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's pretty messed up. There's that Baskin Robbins near Jongo3-ga (or maybe Heywha...I can't remember) that is one of their most profitable stores. Same goes for Starbucks...you know how much money went through that location in MyeongDong alone? The market should dictate that the employees of these would be making more money. Unfortunately, the market doesn't work and these workers get screwed.
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uberscheisse



Joined: 02 Dec 2003
Location: japan is better than korea.

PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

another element to this is that the service industry - while in many respects 100% better and more customer-satisfaction-obsessed than in canada and the US - still has such an aversion to tipping.

yes, yes, i know... culture, blah blah but it's a damned good idea.

i mean - a nice restaurant back home, minimum wage + tips - that's a decent living.

try selling that to korea though.
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laogaiguk



Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea

PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

uberscheisse wrote:
another element to this is that the service industry - while in many respects 100% better and more customer-satisfaction-obsessed than in canada and the US - still has such an aversion to tipping.

yes, yes, i know... culture, blah blah but it's a damned good idea.

i mean - a nice restaurant back home, minimum wage + tips - that's a decent living.

try selling that to korea though.


God no, don't bring our stupid culture of tipping here. Tipping is stupid. Tipping should not be needed, as wages should account for it. I don't want to go over all the reasons tipping is stupid (it's just a sh itty patch job for low wages). Korea should just bring wages up to an acceptible level.
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I_Am_Wrong



Joined: 14 Sep 2004
Location: whatever

PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nah, tipping is great in theory and sometimes in practice. The problem is that it's come to the point where it's absolutely expected that the server will always get a tip no matter what the service is like. It's also come to the point where if a server doesn't feel they'll get a good tip from you, they won't bother to serve you well.
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