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[mithridates]

This song sounds familiar.


http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/audio/national/himno.mp3

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuestro_Himno

��Amenece, lo veis?, a la luz de la aurora?
Lo que tanto aclamamos la noche al caer?
Sus estrellas sus franjas flotaban ayer,
En el fiero combate, en señal de victoria,
Fulgor de lucha, al paso de la libertad,
Por la noche decían: "��Se va defendiendo!"
��Oh decid! ��Despliega aún su hermosura estrellada,
Sobre tierra de libres, la bandera sagrada?


Sus estrellas, sus franjas, la libertad, somos iguales
Somos hermanos, en nuestro himno.
En el fiero combate, en señal de victoria,
Fulgor de lucha... (Mi gente, ��sigue luchando!)
...al paso de la libertad (��Ya es tiempo de romper las cadenas!)
Por la noche decían: "��Se va defendiendo!"
��Oh decid! ��Despliega aún su hermosura estrellada,
Sobre tierra de libres, la bandera sagrada?

[Gopher]

Who audits Wikipedia, Mithridates?

I think I recall you mentioning you wrote some entries there once. It looks like some entries appear simultaneously with some new developments, or a little too fast.

Just curious as to the authority of Wikipedia as a source. How does it work? Can anyone post anything they want on it? Or is it like an encyclopaedia of old, where only experts write on their own subjects, subject to review by other experts and the editorial staff?

[mithridates]

In theory, everybody audits Wikipedia - if you see an entry that says "The United States was founded in 1945" you'd know that's wrong and feel the urge to go hit the edit button and correct the error. That's for obvious mistakes. Most people on Wikipedia have a watchlist of pages that they're interested in keeping an eye on (I have 85 on mine for example) so that you can see when changes have been made, and by who. Political pages usually have a few hundred people keeping an eye on them so anything wrong usually gets corrected quite quickly. Misinformation that can stay for a while though is usually something not so controversial or harder to verify - if you wrote in a sentence on some small town like "in the centre of the town is a park called Veracity Park" it might take a while to get erased if it was wrong, because the place is small, and the edit's not controversial either.
It's certainly not like an encyclopaedia of old, however. Nobody is designated as an expert from the start, but if you have a history of neutral and unbiased edits under your username your opinion will carry more weight than an anonymous ip edit or a new user that has been causing trouble.

[mithridates]

Here's an example of an article that's been well written and sourced after hundreds and hundreds of edits:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jyllands-Posten_Muhammad_cartoons_controversy
You can see it has a total of 79 references in the one article.

It takes a while for an article to get to that stage though, and the one on Nuestro Himno's just started.

[Moldy Rutabaga]

I like Wikipedia a lot-- it makes me feel like a published authority when I write an article on something obscure! It's true that anyone actually can edit an article. In theory, you'd think chaos would result, but I think Wikipedia wisely takes controversial subjects and splits them off, making both the objective main page and a discussion section. I read an article saying this happened with the Wal-Mart entry. I've had things I've written changed, but it's happened with respect--so far.

I don't have a problem with a Spanish translation of the anthem. In Canada, there's French and English versions of the national song-- what's the big deal? I'm reading that some Spanish versions have changed the lyrics to make topical political statements, but if so, it's just a sort of parody that will fade away.

Ken:>

[Gopher]

Ken, this is not a simple, direct translation or a parody.

[Moldy Rutabaga]

As I've read, there are now different versions of the translation, with some more patriotic and others more parodic. I can't fully translate the one the OP gave to find out-- hace muchos anos que vivi en el Mexico-- it's been a few years since I lived in Mexico!

Ken:>