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Rios
Joined: 05 Aug 2006
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Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 5:25 am Post subject: Have 2 weeks spring break vacation but I cannot leave Korea? |
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I work in a public school and the school's spring break vacation is coming up: February 16th - March 2nd.
The school will be closed during this period so I will not have to come in to school.
(It is important to state that I have already used the 7 days of winter vacation stated in my contract.)
My public school's spring break vacation for me will be considered 'unofficial' (under the table).
I would really like to travel to Thailand during this time. The problem is since my spring break vacation is 'unofficial,' I am not supposed to leave Korea.
I was told, by my co-teacher, that I was not allowed to leave Korea because their is a possibility that the public school would be audited by the provincial board of education. In addition, if the provinicial board of education finds out that I was out of the country longer than stated in my contract, the school could get hit with a fine.
I think this is all a bunch of crap and scare tactics but I am not sure since this is my first teaching gig in Korea.
I am thinking about just saying screw it, and buying a ticket to Thailand and worrying about the consequences upon my return to Korea.
So I guess what I am asking for is any advice. I mean what would you do, would you just travel to Thailand 'under the radar' and hope the school does not find out or would you just stay in Korea during the spring break vacation and wait until the summer for the 'official' 7 day summer vacation?
Thanks in advance,
-Rios |
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mrsquirrel
Joined: 13 Dec 2006
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Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 5:35 am Post subject: |
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Do you really want to come to Thailand and land at our new dodgy airport?
If you do come though bring only a few clothes with you so I can use the space in your bag to bring my printer and scanner over with me. |
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ajgeddes

Joined: 28 Apr 2004 Location: Yongsan
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Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 5:38 am Post subject: |
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There is absolutely no way they can know you were in Thailand. If they call you over and over, just say that you were in Jeju Island and left your phone at home. There you go, you didn't leave the country and didn't have your phone and now they have no way to know. Game, Set, Match. |
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butlerian

Joined: 04 Sep 2006 Location: Korea
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Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 6:01 am Post subject: |
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Go to Thailand. Have a good time. Come back to Korea. Prepare for work. That's all there is to it - don't worry so much! Life is not so serious. |
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ChuckECheese

Joined: 20 Jul 2006
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Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 6:12 am Post subject: |
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Try not to get too tanned and look too obvious.
Have a good time in Thailand. |
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cdninkorea

Joined: 27 Jan 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 7:55 am Post subject: |
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I agree with the above posts- go for it and enjoy your time in Thailand. In your situation, I definitely would. |
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passport220

Joined: 14 Jun 2006 Location: Gyeongsangbuk-do province
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Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 9:38 am Post subject: |
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So your school is going to pay you to sit at home and do nothing. The only restriction they have put on you is that you stay in the country. You feel they are being unreasonable and you should be paid to violate what they have ask of you and go to Thailand?
It is no wonder this profession has a reputation of being staffed by unprofessional children. |
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cruisemonkey

Joined: 04 Jul 2005 Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.
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Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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ajgeddes wrote: |
There is absolutely no way they can know you were in Thailand. |
There's this little thing called "Immigration" ... of course they can find out if you left the country, where you went and for how long. |
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JeJuJitsu

Joined: 11 Sep 2005 Location: McDonald's
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Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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passport220 wrote: |
So your school is going to pay you to sit at home and do nothing. The only restriction they have put on you is that you stay in the country. You feel they are being unreasonable and you should be paid to violate what they have ask of you and go to Thailand?
It is no wonder this profession has a reputation of being staffed by unprofessional children. |
Why be such a jackass? Only an utter moron would believe this idiot rumor/urban legend about not being able to leave the country. Only NORTH Korea, Cuba, South Korea 20 years ago, and the former Soviet Union had such travel restrictions.
We are free people and can travel wherever the hell we want, provided we get the applicable visa. How stupid do you have to be to not understand this? Are you that intimidated by your Korean overlords that you believe they can restrict your travel?...and I'm not discounting that somewhere in some contract it says this, but doesn't make it any less idiotic or illegal, just because an idiot Korean wrote it. |
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ChuckECheese

Joined: 20 Jul 2006
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Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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In that case, tell them that your dog died back home and had to attend his/her funeral.  |
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ilovebdt

Joined: 03 Jun 2005 Location: Nr Seoul
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Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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How long have you been in Korea? Have you seen everything?
Thailand isn't going anywhere, so why not stay here?
I would give my right arm to be in your situation. I have been at my public school for 2 years and they stick to the contract like glue.
If they wanted to they could check with immigration , but I doubt the would.
ilovebdt
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passport220

Joined: 14 Jun 2006 Location: Gyeongsangbuk-do province
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Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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JeJuJitsu wrote: |
Why be such a jackass? Only an utter moron would believe this idiot rumor/urban legend about not being able to leave the country. Only NORTH Korea, Cuba, South Korea 20 years ago, and the former Soviet Union had such travel restrictions.
We are free people and can travel wherever the hell we want, provided we get the applicable visa. How stupid do you have to be to not understand this? Are you that intimidated by your Korean overlords that you believe they can restrict your travel?...and I'm not discounting that somewhere in some contract it says this, but doesn't make it any less idiotic or illegal, just because an idiot Korean wrote it. |
Who said anything about it being illegal? Who said anything about not being ABLE to leave? The OP is asking about traveling 'under the radar'. The point is we all have machine readable passports; the little box behind the counter at airport immigration is not a gum ball machine. It is a computer; there is a record of your travel.
I am not going to hazard a guess if anyone would ever check the record to see when a teacher travels. The point is the employer in this case has made a fair and reasonable arrangement that is to the benefit of the teacher.
Oh, wait! The right thing to do is always determined by what you can get away with. Never mind, I am going to go and read some more threads about the �lying, low character, untrustworthy Korean employers� that fill this board now. |
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poet13
Joined: 22 Jan 2006 Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.
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Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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Hey buddy,
Yup, you know me. In our province, the guy checks with immigration. As I told you in our MOB email, and as has been discussed in another thread here, the immi guy made a bunch of grief for a girl in my city last year. Checked her in and out dates, brought immi to her school, threatened her with loss of pay, and had her school audited.
I think most provinces in Korea don't check. Ours does. Does it make any damn sense at all? Nope.
I would say if you are not planning on re-signing with our province, go, have fun, but be prepared for some grief. I have a family to think about. If I didnt, I wouldn't give a sh!t and just go. |
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butlerian

Joined: 04 Sep 2006 Location: Korea
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Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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passport220 wrote: |
JeJuJitsu wrote: |
Why be such a jackass? Only an utter moron would believe this idiot rumor/urban legend about not being able to leave the country. Only NORTH Korea, Cuba, South Korea 20 years ago, and the former Soviet Union had such travel restrictions.
We are free people and can travel wherever the hell we want, provided we get the applicable visa. How stupid do you have to be to not understand this? Are you that intimidated by your Korean overlords that you believe they can restrict your travel?...and I'm not discounting that somewhere in some contract it says this, but doesn't make it any less idiotic or illegal, just because an idiot Korean wrote it. |
Who said anything about it being illegal? Who said anything about not being ABLE to leave? The OP is asking about traveling 'under the radar'. The point is we all have machine readable passports; the little box behind the counter at airport immigration is not a gum ball machine. It is a computer; there is a record of your travel.
I am not going to hazard a guess if anyone would ever check the record to see when a teacher travels. The point is the employer in this case has made a fair and reasonable arrangement that is to the benefit of the teacher.
Oh, wait! The right thing to do is always determined by what you can get away with. Never mind, I am going to go and read some more threads about the �lying, low character, untrustworthy Korean employers� that fill this board now. |
I think you do have a point passport, but I don't think the OP is being particularly low in this case. His request is not, by all reasonable standards, unreasonable. Besides, public schools generally do many things unnecessarily to the detriment of their waegooks. They get huge grants from the government for our services, but most of the money is not spent on us, as it is meant to be. |
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Rios
Joined: 05 Aug 2006
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Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 4:46 pm Post subject: Thanks for your replies and comments |
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I think after reading the replies and comments, I will travel to Thailand!!!
I know that Thailand isn�t going anywhere, but neither is Korea!
I guess if the school is closed and allows me to stay home and still pay me, well I guess I am lucky.
What I don�t understand is why my school would try to place travel restrictions on my �unofficial� vacation. All I know is what I was told and that is that if the school is audited and it is determined that I have been on vacation longer than stated in my contract, the school could get hit with a fine.
As stated before, this is my first teaching gig in Korea so I am still learning the ropes.
Anyways, thanks for your replies and your interesting comments.
-Rios |
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