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Rteacher



Joined: 23 May 2005
Location: Western MA, USA

PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 4:42 pm    Post subject: HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO WHO?... Reply with quote


... Lord Narasimha!! (who'd you expect from me - Brittany Spears?...)

Basically, the story (in a nutshell) is that this one mighty demon, Hiranyakasipu, got really pissed-off because his brother had been defeated by a previous incarnation of Vishnu. To avenge his brother's death, he got a benedition from head demigod, Brahma, whereby he could not be killed by any human or demigod, nor on the land or sea, nor by any weapon, nor during the day or night, etc.

Then his own son, Prahlada, while still in his mother's womb, got divine spiritual instruction from the sage Narada, and became a great devotee born in a family of great demons. The demonic father couldn't stand his own kid preaching devotion to Vishnu to his schoolmates at the atheistic school he'd established so he eventually tried to kill him in various ways, each time foiled by Vishnu invisibly protecting his devotee.

... Prahlada refuses to acknowledge his father as the supreme lord of the universe and claims that Vishnu is omnipresent. Once Hiranyakashipu points to a particular pillar and asks if Vishnu is in it; Prahlada answers, "He was, He is and He will be". Hiranyakashipu, unable to control his anger, smashes the pillar, and Vishnu in the form of Narasimha comes from it. In order to kill Hiranyakashipu, who cannot be killed by human, god or animal, Narasimha is partly all three: a god incarnate as a part-human, part-animal. He comes upon Hiranyakashipu at twilight (when it is neither day nor night) on the threshold of a courtyard (neither indoors nor out), and puts the demon on his lap (neither earth nor space). Using his nails (neither animate nor inanimate) as weapons, he disembowels and kills the demon...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narasimha

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TheFonz



Joined: 01 Dec 2005
Location: North Georgia

PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My birthday is in 7 days. Having a May birthday is nice.
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Rteacher



Joined: 23 May 2005
Location: Western MA, USA

PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tell me about it - mine is in five days... BTW, today is also Salvador Dali's birthday, as well as Phil Silvers (of "Sgt. Bilko" fame) and "Black Muslim" leader Louis Farrakhan...
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endofthewor1d



Joined: 01 Apr 2003
Location: the end of the wor1d.

PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i can imagine when he was opening his presents as a kid...
'oh great, just what i needed. another arm. thanks a lot.'
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indytrucks



Joined: 09 Apr 2003
Location: The Shelf

PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jesus never disemboweled anyone.

Lord Narasimha = meanie.
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Rteacher



Joined: 23 May 2005
Location: Western MA, USA

PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The big demon getting his guts ripped out was not an ordinary human, and he actually more-or-less volunteered to perform that gory pastime with Vishnu's half-man/half lion form.

He and his brother (Jai and Vijay) were actually gatekeepers of Vaikuntha (the spiritual sky...) who made the offense of denying the four Kumaras (great sages who always appear to be children...) entrance; and the Kumaras cursed them to take birth in the material world.

These gatekeepers refused entry to the Sanatha Kumara monks, who, because of their powers and austerity appeared as young children. For their insolence, the monks cursed them to be expelled from Vaikunta and to be born in Earth. The all-merciful Vishnu agreed that they should be punished but agreed to mitigate their curse. He asked them whether they would want to be undergo seven births as devotees of Vishnu or three births as enemies of the Lord. Since they wanted to get back as soon as possible, they agreed to be born in three births as enemies of God.

In the first birth, Jaya and Vijaya were born as Hiranyakashipu and Hiranyaksha. Vishnu incarnated as Varaha and Narasimha and killed them both. In [i]Treta Yuga
they were born as Ravana and Kumbhakarna and were killed by Rama. Then in Dwapara yuga, and in their final birth, Jaya and Vijaya they were born as Shishupala and Dantavakra and killed by Sri Krishna. After the end of three births, they returned to Vaikunta.[/i]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ravana

There's no fighting in the spiritual sky, so when the original personality desires to enjoy the experience of fighting (and simultaneously serve many purposes such as protecting devotees ...) the venue is always in the material world. The "demons" are eternally liberated associates empowered to put up a good fight. Being thus "killed" by an avatar or expansion of God is always a benediction (and in any case the soul never dies...)
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Troll_Bait



Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: [T]eaching experience doesn't matter much. -Lee Young-chan (pictured)

PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rteacher wrote:
The big demon getting his guts ripped out was not an ordinary human, and he actually more-or-less volunteered to perform that gory pastime with Vishnu's half-man/half lion form.


I often don't understand your posts, but more than any other in memory, this one really left me scratching my head in utter confusion.



A: Hey, Hiranyakasipu, what are you doing today?

B: I'm volunteering to have my guts ripped out of my abdomen while I'm still alive.

A: Sounds like fun. Have a good time.

B: Bravo your life.

A: Be the Reds.

B: I certainly will be, with my intestines hanging out.

A: You can do.



Please don't tell me that to understand, I first need to cleanse my consciousness with the ethereal laxative of Hare Krishna mantra chanting.
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Hobophobic



Joined: 16 Aug 2004
Location: Sinjeong negorie mokdong oh ga ri samgyup sal fighting

PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FRANKFURT (Reuters) - A German cannibal whose killing and eating of a willing victim shocked the nation received a life sentence for murder Tuesday after a court overturned a previous manslaughter conviction.

In delivering the decision, Judge Klaus Drescher threw out the defense team's argument that Armin Meiwes had acted on his victim's request, a crime similar to euthanasia which in Germany carries a maximum prison term of five years.

"The defendant was fully conscious of his actions and could control them," Drescher told the court.


"This is not killing on request," he said. "He killed him because he wanted to slaughter and eat his flesh. He had achieved the biggest kick of his life."

Meiwes, 44, was standing trial for the second time after Germany's top criminal court ruled his 2004 conviction for manslaughter and eight-year jail sentence was too lenient.

Under German law Meiwes could be released after 15 years. The court rejected a request by prosecutors to deny his right to be released early, saying his victim had volunteered to be killed and eaten.

Meiwes corresponded with 400 people over the Internet in his search for a willing victim before stumbling upon Bernd-Juergen Brandes, a high-ranking IT manager with German firm Siemens.

In a tale that has horrified the country and inspired a feature film, Brandes traveled by train to meet Meiwes, where the cannibal videotaped himself severing Brandes' *beep* with a knife before both men tried to eat it.

Bleeding profusely, Brandes fell unconscious. With the video recorder still rolling, Meiwes laid him out on a bench, kissing him on the lips before plunging a knife into his throat.

"The next one must be young but not so fat," Drescher quoted Meiwes as saying after the slaughter was complete and his victim was suspended from a meat hook.

Meiwes later froze 30 kg (66 lb) of flesh in parcels labeled schnitzel among other things, said the judge. He later ate the flesh with red cabbage and potatoes.

The judge described Meiwes as psychologically sick but fully aware of his actions.


Hmmm....a relative?
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skinhead



Joined: 11 Jun 2004

PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You guys take this cartoon character far too seriously. More even than he does himself, I suspect.
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jaganath69



Joined: 17 Jul 2003

PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 3:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mines in 12, happy birthday to you other guys. Nice 'blue jeans christian' take on the story btw, rteacher.
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Satori



Joined: 09 Dec 2005
Location: Above it all

PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 4:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rteacher wrote:
Tell me about it - mine is in five days... BTW, today is also Salvador Dali's birthday, as well as Phil Silvers (of "Sgt. Bilko" fame) and "Black Muslim" leader Louis Farrakhan...

I'd like to see a Salvador Dali take on some of these Krishna themes... Laughing
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Rteacher



Joined: 23 May 2005
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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 5:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, if nothing else, at least Krishna consciousness got me off my heavy dependence on drugs. I was a burned-out acid-head and anarchist hippie freak when I took up bhakti-yoga at age 24, and I soon felt I was part of a spiritual revolution that would maybe save the whole world from miserable conditions and could bring real peace and happiness to all.

For me (and all the "Krishna" devotees...) it came down to accepting Bhaktivedanta Swami as my spiritual father, guide and eternal well-wisher. His pure devotion, complete sincerity and transcendental qualities were evident at every stage of his journey - even when living in the midst of hobos and drunks in NY's bowery district...

If I studied Vedic literatures on my own, I'm pretty sure that I would have concluded - like most academic scholars - that these stories are obviously mythological. Since the Bhagavat Purana relates numerous events that are supposed to have occured on far-away planets or (like this pastime) millions of years ago the most reasonable explanation might be that they are the earliest examples of mystical science fiction.

Bhaktivedanta Swami stressed that the transcendental knowledge being delivered through the disciplic succession was factual. All the great stalwart sages and Vedic authorities like Vyasa and Madhvacharya would not waste time fabricating mythology. Even as a fallen disciple I'm prepared to accept that absolute truth may indeed be stranger than fiction. I know that there are many intelligent Hindus who accept these ancient pastimes as valid pre-historical accounts that can only be understood via a spiritual master linked to an authorized disciplic succession...
http://prabhupadaconnect.com/Memories_Index.html
http://prabhupadaconnect.com/Causeless_Mercy_Index.html
http://www.gauranga.org/prabhupada.htm
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