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jacl



Joined: 31 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 10:45 am    Post subject: Creep Reply with quote

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jaderedux



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Lurking outside Seoul

PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great, I spend months trying to get them to stop using this word in my classroom! I recently hauled a girl into the teachers room because she had a tee-shirt on that said "farking great". (first year with girls and they don't have a uniform yet.)

If they write it on their English books as in "farking English" I rip the cover off and make them write it about 1000 times. On their time. Not much of problem these days as I tell every class at the beginning of the year if I see this word, or hear this word in my class room the wrath of "Miss Jade" will befall them and there will will be horrible consquences.

Do you think it is funny? Do you think it is appropriate? Last year I sent a rather nasty letter to a hogwan because the teacher was teaching a couple of my advanced students some pretty raw language and then telling them to ask me what it means.

Nice Work! Rolling Eyes

Jade
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last year I noticed that one of my grade 3 high school students had the OK Computer CD and all the lyrics printed out and I was so pleased to see her learning English this way on her own that I didn't say a thing about the inappropriate language. However, I would never, ever play something like that in class, much less sing it for them.

Fortunately my students never swear, in English or Korean (well, almost, almost never in the latter).
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poof



Joined: 23 May 2005

PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think there is much more useful language that a teacher should be investing their time in teaching.

Admittedly, the kids need someone to explain exactly what it is that they are shouting at foreigners in the street are impolite swearwords. I also won't try to stop kids who seek out these words by themselves outside the class. But, personally, I don't want to be labelled the teacher who teaches my kids nothing memorable but swearwords.

Lamentably, though, I did learn all the Korean swearwords from kids in my classes, as they are pretty competent in all these too, and don't seem to hesitate to use them. Even the kindies use 'arsch' quite freely. I guess they get it from their parents.
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jacl



Joined: 31 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hollywoodaction



Joined: 02 Jul 2004

PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, you could sing instead, 'So frickin' special' while holding your pinky at the corner of your mouth for dramatic effect. Wink
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jaderedux wrote:
Last year I sent a rather nasty letter to a hogwan because the teacher was teaching a couple of my advanced students some pretty raw language and then telling them to ask me what it means.


I wonder if it was the same guy responsible for a sweet, innocent girl coming up to me and asking 'teachuh, what is d i c k h e a d'?
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jaderedux



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Lurking outside Seoul

PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yu_Bum_suk wrote:
jaderedux wrote:
Last year I sent a rather nasty letter to a hogwan because the teacher was teaching a couple of my advanced students some pretty raw language and then telling them to ask me what it means.


I wonder if it was the same guy responsible for a sweet, innocent girl coming up to me and asking 'teachuh, what is d i c k h e a d'?


Exactly. Probably not but man the guy was teaching them some pretty rough stuff. I don't blush easily but these boys would ask me stuff that would curl a sailors hair.

Didn't mean to sound so irritable about it OP, but it makes me crazy when some (more than likely not YOU) get there S & G's by teaching kids vulgar words and such.

Sorry for the crankiness.

Jade
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xtchr



Joined: 23 Nov 2004

PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

S & Gs?
What does that mean?
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alabamaman



Joined: 25 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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jacl



Joined: 31 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2006 4:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jacl....that was poor judgement on your part.

No getting around that.

It was not a glimpse into your culture...it was a glimpse into profanity for middle school kids you teach. Since you knew the contents of the Creep song...why hand it out and sing it then?

The mermaid thing...when did you notice you had "forgotten" the nudity? Before you handed it out? While you made numerous copies?

Come on....that was just stupid on your part. You are a teacher jacl and that should mean something...minimally it should mean not handing out profanity and slight nudity in your class because you want then to glimpse your culture.

I gotta agree with Jade here.
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Dodgy Al



Joined: 15 May 2004
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2006 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know what's more sad - you getting a thrill out of saying 'the f word' to your students, or you boasting about it on the internet.
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jacl



Joined: 31 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2006 7:21 am    Post subject: I don't belong here Reply with quote

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poet13



Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.

PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"I wish I was special
You're so *beep*' special"

something to think about.

jacl. It's not my place to flame anyone, but if you had to change the word so that Daves filter would allow it here, a place where the vast majority of people are adults; don't you think maybe it's not fit for your students consumption either?
I am all for contemporary, and I would argue that there is a place for profanity in literature, but teaching it to ESL students? No way. Not cool.
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