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key money, ain't it funny?

 
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denistron



Joined: 21 Oct 2006
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 3:53 pm    Post subject: key money, ain't it funny? Reply with quote

I have a lease for an apartment with 5 million key money down. I want to move out soon because I live in Hadan, and it totally sucks there. I wonder if I can get my key money back in full since I havn't stayed there a year. How long does it take to get back? What is the story/deal/low-down on getting that pile of dough back?

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jaganath69



Joined: 17 Jul 2003

PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 3:58 pm    Post subject: Re: key money, ain't it funny? Reply with quote

denistron wrote:
I have a lease for an apartment with 5 million key money down. I want to move out soon because I live in Hadan, and it totally sucks there. I wonder if I can get my key money back in full since I havn't stayed there a year. How long does it take to get back? What is the story/deal/low-down on getting that pile of dough back?



I've heard of some instances where the money will not be returned until the owner finds another occupant.
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Gwangjuboy



Joined: 08 Jul 2003
Location: England

PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You need to get someone else to move into your house.
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seoulsucker



Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: The Land of the Hesitant Cutoff

PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup. Like most owners, they probably have the cash tied up in something else. Once the next tenant drops the dime, they'll just transfer it to you. From what I gather it's technically illegal, but one of the many laws in Korea that simply aren't enforced.
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Gwangjuboy



Joined: 08 Jul 2003
Location: England

PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, landlords are evidently in a lot of debt. I have recently tried to negotiate a higher monthly rent (and reduce the deposit) but no landlord I have met will even entertain the idea. That despite the fact that he can earn more money that way than the interest he would earn from the extra key money.
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's pretty low key money. Mine is ten times that.
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denistron



Joined: 21 Oct 2006
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jaganath69

Man, what's with the photo.... eww
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purephase11



Joined: 29 Sep 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 12:10 am    Post subject: when have you recieved your key money back? Reply with quote

Not to hijack this thread but when have you recieved your key money back (people that have moved out after the 1 year mark or longer). I am about to move out and am leaving the country that day and don't really want to screw around with waiting for my landlord to come up with the loot. Is it usually the move out day/toss him the keys/do the walkthrough day? I haven't had to do this in my 4 years so was just curious if anyone else had. Thanks.
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mnhnhyouh



Joined: 21 Nov 2006
Location: The Middle Kingdom

PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I am in a public school am I likely to need to get an apartment myself? If not will I need key money?

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purephase11



Joined: 29 Sep 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm in a public school and work p/t. Yes, I needed to get my own apt. If you work for them full time, salary, they will usually find you an apt. OR give you rent money, whichever you prefer.
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Njord



Joined: 12 Jan 2006
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 2:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I asked some Koreans to explain to me how the key money system (with no rent) works. They proceded to describe a classic pyramid scheme. When I pointed this out, they insisted that it is not a pyramid scheme - with no good argument. (Although one did have a story about how she lost almost all her money in an apartment when the landlord went bankrupt. Go figure.)

Anyway, I would be deeply suspicious and very reluctant to hand over any of my own money for this. There is no way they can make anywhere near enough on interest to make key money attractive - unless it really is a pyramid scheme, they are incompetent, they are far in debt, or all three.
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jaganath69



Joined: 17 Jul 2003

PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 4:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

denistron wrote:
jaganath69

Man, what's with the photo.... eww


The old one, naughty nigel?



I just dig him up and air him out from time to time to elicit exactly that kind of reaction. Cool, no?
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