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crescent
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 Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 11:26 pm Post subject: Apple with Intel Core Duo |
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Anyone out there have one, or thinking of buying one?
I'm looking for info on it from people with experience. Specifically, does the new chip allow wide open freedom for software and video chatting. |
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jaebea
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| Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 11:38 pm Post subject: |
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I'd definitely consider it for a second laptop purely for browsing and productivity. Apple has released software which lets you dualboot Windows on IntelMacs.
That's about as tacit an approval as you can get.
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JongnoGuru
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Karabeara
Joined: 05 Nov 2005
Location: The right public school beats a university/unikwon job any day!
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| Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 10:00 am Post subject: |
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| Can you play Gostop and other online Korean games with the MAC os? |
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laogaiguk
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea
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| Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Karabeara wrote: |
| Can you play Gostop and other online Korean games with the MAC os? |
Do you play them through a web browser (like Internet Explorer or Mozilla Firefox)? Or did you download a program that connects to the internet?
1) If they are through a web browser, no problem (assuming your mac has a web browser, which is a certainty).
2) If you downloaded it, these new macs can play them cause they can run windows software. Even if you get a normal mac, there is probably a Mac version of the game software you can download.
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Bulsajo
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| Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Karabeara wrote: |
| Can you play Gostop and other online Korean games with the MAC os? |
www.hangame.com
Play go-stop there and my wife will kick your ass...  |
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ejmlab
Joined: 17 Feb 2005
Location: Pohang
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| Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 2:11 am Post subject: |
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@laogaiguk
While it is true that the new Intel based macs can run winxp (and the converse is also true-- I'm currently using my samsung x60 with Mac OSX to type this) Mac OSX can't run windows based binaries without some form of emulation (ie. darwine or OS emulation like Virtual PC) Having said that alot of software is available for Mac OSX so what you want to run may already have been ported. If you have the inclination you might also be able to compile linux source code on your Mac (both *nix based OS's) |
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steveohan
Joined: 24 Apr 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 7:04 am Post subject: |
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i am running an imac 2.0 ghz intel dual core and its incredible.
i installed windows xp on it last week via boot camp and it is screaming fast.
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FriendlyBeard
Joined: 22 Apr 2006
Location: Daejeon, Korea
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| Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 5:56 pm Post subject: 17 intel core MacBook Pro!!! |
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The mothership has landed and it will bring half life and sims 2 into my pc-less life.
Now I just need to earn me some serious Won! |
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Zulu
Joined: 28 Apr 2006
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Although they're running Rosetta under OSX for some programs the basic OS is running very nicely, as are apps like iLife '06 etc. As more Intel native programs are released they may even come close to the x3/x4 comparisons to the G4 Powerbooks.
These Macbooks seem quite impressive - I'll be looking for one in the near future. Then again I was sold on them even before the Bootcamp announcement.
I messed about with a friends' Mac and will soon be switching from Windows. (tried his very cool new video ipod too). The Mac production software is amazing. Go for it. |
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Zulu
Joined: 28 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 6:38 am Post subject: Re: Apple with Intel Core Duo |
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| crescent wrote: |
Anyone out there have one, or thinking of buying one?
I'm looking for info on it from people with experience. Specifically, does the new chip allow wide open freedom for software and video chatting. |
Cresent, 1) yes now you can run pretty much any Wins program on a Mac, if that's what you wish. 2) Apples' iChat is the best video chat program on the planet. The video quality is stunning and you can see/speak to 4 people simultaneously with excellent resolution and non-staggering frame-rates, or audio chat with 10 at the same time.
The drawback at the moment is the Win/MSN corporate Gods don't want iChat to be compatible with their programs so there are curently some self-imposed limitations, such as voice only or text only if you choose to use iChat software and iSight cameras (included with all new Macs) with many Windows users.
However there seem to be some third party freebies which let you vid chat with Windows people who are using AOL. Use iChat to vid chat with your Mac user friends, and download a Mac version of MSN Messenger etc. to use with your Win friends. A pain in the ass but that's all they can do for now. Check the Apple Site discussion forums http://discussions.apple.com and check out the news at the iChat AV section to see if you need anything else or for news of new third party workarounds. Hopefully this will be resolved soon. |
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Zulu
Joined: 28 Apr 2006
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| ejmlab wrote: |
@laogaiguk
While it is true that the new Intel based macs can run winxp (and the converse is also true-- I'm currently using my samsung x60 with Mac OSX to type this) Mac OSX can't run windows based binaries without some form of emulation (ie. darwine or OS emulation like Virtual PC) |
ejmlab, correct me if I'm wrong but don't Rosetta (which runs univeral apps) and Bootcamp (which runs Wins programs) on the new Intel Macs now make emulators like Virtual PC redundant? I'm pretty sure the vast majority of Windows programs can be run on a new Mac these days, yes? |
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ejmlab
Joined: 17 Feb 2005
Location: Pohang
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At this time (osx 10.4.6) you still need to use some form of emulator or Darwine to run windows binaries natively. Think of it this way. An OS is basically a software layer that interfaces with the hardware through an API (Application Programming Interface). The WINE project under Linux has made great strides in reverse engineering the windows API--hence the recursive name Wine Is Not an Emulator. Much of this code has gone into the Darwine project. There is speculation that the next version of OSX (10.5) may have more of the Windows API implemented via Darwine but it's a long ways from the proprietary API used in XP. One thing's for certain Gates isn't going to hand over his API to Apple.
As for Rosetta-- this technology is an emulator that allows PowerPC written applications to be run on Intel hardware. So just to clarify, the apps that Rosetta helps to run are written for OSX BUT they were written for the PowerPC hardware. Rosetta is not intended to, nor does it, translate windows code into an OSX readable form. That's what Darwine does.
However, since OSX's open-source core is based on FreeBSD 5.0 you can compile Linux source code to your heart's content. Compiling windows source code is not possible because of the aforementioned API issues.
Sorry about the late reply
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