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cubanlord
Joined: 08 Jul 2005
Location: In Japan!
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 Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 4:11 pm Post subject: Hogwon teachers...Kudos to you... |
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| I don't understand how you guys and gals can do it. I definitely wouldn't work at a hogwon unless i was the owner or co-owner. So...from me to you.....kudos! You guys have some brass.... |
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semphoon
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: Where Nowon is
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| Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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C.M.
Joined: 02 Dec 2005
Location: Gangwondo
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| Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 4:32 am Post subject: |
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jacl
Joined: 31 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 5:55 am Post subject: |
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| Whatever! Go back to teaching 50 kids at once and leave us to our better situations. |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 6:14 am Post subject: |
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| jacl wrote: |
| Whatever! Go back to teaching 50 kids at once and leave us to our better situations. |
Oh I so envy your Ding DOng Dang haggie on your CV and your 2.1 and 8 days vacation. Wow, Im envious:) |
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jacl
Joined: 31 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 6:19 am Post subject: |
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| jinju wrote: |
| jacl wrote: |
| Whatever! Go back to teaching 50 kids at once and leave us to our better situations. |
Oh I so envy your Ding DOng Dang haggie on your CV and your 2.1 and 8 days vacation. Wow, Im envious:) |
Well, I have to say that was a burn. Maybe not on me, but on someone. 
And it's Ding Dong Ding. Get your info straight. |
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semphoon
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: Where Nowon is
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| Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 7:14 am Post subject: |
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| jacl wrote: |
| Whatever! Go back to teaching 50 kids at once and leave us to our better situations. |
And thats what the OP wanted to happen. Well done. |
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Dan The Chainsawman
Joined: 05 May 2005
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| Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 7:36 am Post subject: |
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| I hate hogwans but have no problem lying on my CV either so no biggie. |
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jacl
Joined: 31 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 8:41 am Post subject: |
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| Dan The Chainsawman wrote: |
| I hate hogwans but have no problem lying on my CV either so no biggie. |
Yeah, really.  CV What's the difference anyway? That just makes me laugh. What kind of a top notch job are you going to get for teaching English in Korea back in whatever country you're from? Doesn't matter whether it's a hagwon or a public school.
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jacl
Joined: 31 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 8:41 am Post subject: |
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| semphoon wrote: |
| jacl wrote: |
| Whatever! Go back to teaching 50 kids at once and leave us to our better situations. |
And thats what the OP wanted to happen. Well done. |
Yeah, I know. And the cycle continues. |
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zappadelta
Joined: 31 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 1:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Well, I am a public school teacher. And, I can almost instantly tell the difference between a hagwon student and a non-hagwon student. So, some of you guys are doing a great job. |
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pet lover
Joined: 02 Jan 2004
Location: not in Seoul
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| Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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crazylemongirl
Joined: 23 Mar 2003
Location: almost there...
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| Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks hogwon teachers.... It's a shame the kids stop going to english language academies at middle school as I see their spoken english slide from 1st to 3rd grade. |
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Dan The Chainsawman
Joined: 05 May 2005
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How Crazy Lemon Girl...
You speakum big truth...
no white devil speakum with forked tongue..
Korean Middle School Students all loosem brains at age 11...
get brains back at 34 or so... |
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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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Back to the original question, how do I do it........... some days I really don't know myself other than I agreed to work here, so now I have to make the best of it.
You have to have a very thick skin, but even that is not enough sometimes.
It helps to have a good boss who allows you some autonomy.
It helps when the school has resources.
It sucks big time when the above 2 are absent.
Somedays I really am an overpaid babysitter, not that I don't try to make some kind of language learning happen, but there are just so many things that work against that. Too many classes to be able to prepare properly for, lack of information from the school regarding changes, stupid decisions from the boss that make teaching impossible, stupid textbooks or good textbooks that are way too difficult for the students, lack of resources etc.
Every once in a while, I will find some activity that really works well and I will feel like a teacher again for a few days.
But in the end, it really comes down to the students and what mood they are in. If they don't feel like learning.......... I really can't force them to learn. Sure, I can get them to mouth the words and copy down the answers, but that really isn't teaching them anything. (except perhaps how much they hate English)
When the students want to learn, suddenly things turn around and I see some progress being made, but these times seem few and far between. |
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