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[Len8]

There is a big argument going on about the posting of information about convicted sex offenders. Those in support of publishing the information say that peoples human rights should be guaranteed, but at the same time we cannot disregard those rights of children who may become victims of sex crimes in order to protect offenders rights.

Youth centers and womens groups also claim the humanrights of future victims are more important than the rights of sex offenders.

Those opposed to the publishing of the offenders data claim that it could jeopardize their chances for rehabilitation.

Not an authority on sexual abuse, but can sexual offenders be cured?

Maybe they (sexual offenders) have forfeited their human rights because of the heinious nature of their crimes.

[Yu_Bum_suk]

[Len8]

Sorry. The controversy and stuff in the papers is about the recent murder of a young child here in Korea in February

[Medic]

I followed the proceedings from both the Human Rights Commission and The National Youth commission, and thought the Human Rights Commission were off the planet with their reasons for opposing the passing of a bill to have all details of sex offenders made public.

The Human rights commission maintained that the bill would make it difficult for offenders to be rehabilitated, and that it bring shame to the family of the offender.

The number of offenders that do get rehabilitated are few and far between. Intensive therapy is neaded to get the abusers to at least realise that what they did was a crime. Most of them go into a state of denial using excuses such as "she provoked me with provocative behaviour, so I couldn't resist my impulses". Others feign having feelings of remorse and knowing that they were abusive to get praise from their therapists and maybe freedom to go and abuse other children.

Therapists have to win the confidence of the abuser before they can attempt behaviour modification, and most of them find the task very distateful. Not the counselling job people would seek to do. Becoming a friend with an offender to get him to open up would not be easy, because you cant become friends with low life person. You are always distrusting.

[Satori]

Im pro publication of the data. Protection of the many trumps the shame of the few in this case. They have given up thier rights. Many do re offend. I don't really believe in rehabilitation for sex offenders.

[ontheway]

There needs to be some rational limits on this stuff. There is a famous case in Wisconsin in the US. An 18 year old man with a 17 year old girlfriend. They even got married, but he's to be listed publicly, for life, as a sex offender.

[ThePoet]

[cubanlord]

labeling someone as a sex offender is a very difficult task. I say this because how can someone distinguish between what is a really bad sex offender (a 30 year old molesting a 12 year old vs. an 18 year old having sex with a 17 year old 'who is about to turn 18'). In Florida, they do publish this information. Unfortunately, they do not distinguish between the two. If they do publish the information, I believe there should be a way of distinguishing the two. Possibly break them up into levels?

Level 1 Sex offender - molested someone that was X years old.
Level 2....and so on.

[Yu_Bum_suk]

Assuming we're not talking about shit for brains Americans who put 18-year-olds in prison for sleeping with 17-year-olds, and are talking about adults who've molested children, there can be little defence. In particular they need to be kept away from schools, and schools in the area need to notified. I don't believe that 90% of child molesters have only done it once.

[cubanlord]

[Len8]

Why is an abuser sexually aroused by children? Why does he derive gratification from sexual contact with children? Why is he unable to derive sexual and emotional gratification from more normatively approved sources? and why is he undeterred by conventional social inhibitions and taboos?

Findings from files and other data that revealed that only about 25% of the perpetrators had been victims of sexual and/ or physical abuse challenges the supposed connection between victimisation in childhood and subsequent sexually abusive behaviour as an adult.

It's a common assumption that sexual abusive behaviour is repetitive and deliberate. Rarely, if ever, is the sexual abuse accepted as a 'one off incident', spontaneous and unplanned. Rather, the bedrock of intervention is the assumption that the sexual abuse was worked out well in advance and has certainly occured on more occasions than the perpetrator is prepared to admit or accept.


There is considerable public concern about the assumed threat posed to children's safety from strangers. Child sexual abuse is predominantly a problem of male perpetrators known to the victim at the time the abuse occured.

[ThePoet]

I think you misunderstood me...I did not say 90% of child molesters only did it once, I said 90% of the sexual offenders are not repeat offenders.

And herein lies the problem. When someone says sex offender, people automatically see someone molesting and hurting children. Its a good effort by the right wing governments and rightwing media that try to invoke fear about this crime over all others.

However, when I am talking about sexual offenders it includes the 18/17 year old scenarios but also sexual touching which can mean (I am not kidding) someone brushing his arm accidentally across a womans chest as he is walking by in a crowd and her deciding to take offense at it. It can also mean violent sex offenders and rapists and people who download porn on the internet. Did you know in Canada, even if the model is over 18 years old -- if she is dressed, filmed or described as a younger girl in a sexual pose or scene, and I download said porn...it makes me guilty of kiddie porn possession. All of that is in that 90% I mentioned.

Poet

[Apple Scruff]

Sounds like the party's over for some of the weird-ass old foreign guys hanging out in K-Town!