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German and working in Korea ??

 
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joolsd



Joined: 18 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 12:58 am    Post subject: German and working in Korea ?? Reply with quote

Haylo

My friend wants to work in Korea but she has a German passport. She has an English degree, is married to an English guy, does not have an accent and has lived in England all her adult life she also has three years teaching exp. Will a hogwan employ her ? Or is it all down to the passport. I have heard of other none natives working in Korea but I guess that would be illigally.

any advice much appreciated.

Jools
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Juregen



Joined: 30 May 2006

PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's going to be hard.

Technically you are not even allowed to be hired by Hagwons (private institutes) or any other institute. Only natives can do that.

I am Belgian, just to make sure.

Which leaves you private, but that without an F-visa is way too risky, and you need a decent network.

Unless someone knows better then me that is.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 1:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Juregen wrote:
It's going to be hard.

Technically you are not even allowed to be hired by Hagwons (private institutes) or any other institute. Only natives can do that.

I am Belgian, just to make sure.

Which leaves you private, but that without an F-visa is way too risky, and you need a decent network.

Unless someone knows better then me that is.


You are correct.

She needs either an F-visa OR a passport from one of the APPROVED English speaking countries (Ireland, UK, USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand or South Africa to get a LEGAL job.
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joolsd



Joined: 18 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 1:23 am    Post subject: Visa Reply with quote

Ok

My ignorance amazes me. What is an F visa ??

Cheeeeers

Jools
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 1:40 am    Post subject: Re: Visa Reply with quote

joolsd wrote:
Ok

My ignorance amazes me. What is an F visa ??

Cheeeeers

Jools


You can get it if you marry a native Korean.
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tinus2003



Joined: 19 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, so I'm dealing with the same problem, only difference is that I'm Dutch.

So let me get this. I either get married to a Korean or have to be extremely lucky that someone will hire me. But even if I am lucky enough to find me a job through a network or just pure luck, I still need a certain visa, right?
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Wangja



Joined: 17 May 2004
Location: Seoul, Yongsan

PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But a German can teach German and a Dutchman teach Dutch.

Whilst a lucky Belgian can teach both, plus French. Cool
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tinus2003



Joined: 19 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

show me a school in Korea where I can teach Dutch and I'll be there next week! Very Happy
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Wangja



Joined: 17 May 2004
Location: Seoul, Yongsan

PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tinus2003 wrote:
show me a school in Korea where I can teach Dutch and I'll be there next week! Very Happy


Ik heb geen idee ... I was speaking theoretically. But someone, somewhere must be learning Dutch?

Ik ben de leerling ..... du ben de leerer ...
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ilovebdt



Joined: 03 Jun 2005
Location: Nr Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here are two ideas.

In Seoul, there is a branch of the Goethe Institue which promotes the German language through language learning and cultural events. They have native German speakers teaching there.

Their website is:http://www.goethe.de/ins/kr/seo/deindex.htm

Another possibility would be to contact all the Korean unis which teach German and see if any of them would like a German language assistant to help the students improve their spoken German.

ilovebdt
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tinus2003 wrote:
Ok, so I'm dealing with the same problem, only difference is that I'm Dutch.

So let me get this. I either get married to a Korean or have to be extremely lucky that someone will hire me. But even if I am lucky enough to find me a job through a network or just pure luck, I still need a certain visa, right?


You can either marry a Korean, teach Dutch ( E2 for Dutch - if you can find an employer), or work illegally and teach English if you can find an employer who is willing to hire an illegal.

Problem here is that it is NOT hard to find the employer but it is hard to ensure you get paid. You have no legal standing to complain when the boss forgets payday.

Side note for clarification:
E2 - teacher of foreign languages. Must be from what is (by Korean standards) a native speaker of the language.

F2 - married to a Korean National.


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Hotpants



Joined: 27 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you approach some universities which have attached language institutes, they might be able to let you teach a course in your language, taking a percentage of your fee. I know of a university having done that with a temporary German and Italian instructor. However, I'm not sure about their particular visa situation. The Italian, at least, had some connection to the Vatican! And, the German never got enough students to extend his course.

Alternatively, have you ever seen that bilingual German actor (who may be half Korean?) who had lead roles in the Korean drama series 'Love Story in Harvard' and 'Stairway to Heaven'? If you have the right looks, you could try your luck in entertainment!
Just watch this link to see the guy I mean, and then compare your talents! Smile
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0QPUz_KTEE
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joolsd



Joined: 18 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 1:17 am    Post subject: Thanks Reply with quote

Thanks

Does anyone know weather she can get work in Japan? From what I gather they are less strict about the native speaker thing.

Jools
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Dazed and Confused



Joined: 10 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To the person interested in teaching Dutch.....the Korean University of Foriegn Languages (Way Dae) IF I am remembering it right, had the ONLY Dutch language course in Asia. I think that is your best bet. BTW I think there are a grand total of 15 Dutch persons in Korea. You will be expected to judge the Dutch speaking contest every year! Very Happy
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Juregen



Joined: 30 May 2006

PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 5:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dazed and Confused wrote:
To the person interested in teaching Dutch.....the Korean University of Foriegn Languages (Way Dae) IF I am remembering it right, had the ONLY Dutch language course in Asia. I think that is your best bet. BTW I think there are a grand total of 15 Dutch persons in Korea. You will be expected to judge the Dutch speaking contest every year! Very Happy


Actually there are over 600 dutch speaking people.

Plus there are about 30 students each year that finish Germanic studies.
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