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any publicschool teachers add their job onto an existing e2?

 
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xCustomx



Joined: 06 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2006 2:16 am    Post subject: any publicschool teachers add their job onto an existing e2? Reply with quote

Has anyone ever had an evening job, like 6-10pm, or something similar, with a company willing to sponsor an e2 and then received permission to work at a public school during the day? i have emailed SMOE as to whether or not this is possible, and am still waiting to hear from them. the school has said it is legal, a recruiter for SMOE said its not legal, so I'm trying to reach SMOE directly.

It would seem to me like it would be ok, as long as the school sponsoring the e2 provides paperwork to immigration, giving permission to work a 2nd job. The recruiter I spoke to said that the the company who sponsors the e2 must be your primary place of employment, which also means that you must be working more hours there than at the public job (which would not be the case in this situation). anyways, any info is appreciated. thanks
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BigBuds



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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2006 2:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, you can have a second job as long as your primary employer allows it and you have permission from immigration (it's a matter of filling out a form and paying 60,00 won). The only condition on it is that you must work more hours at your primary place of employment than at your secondary place of employment.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2006 3:18 am    Post subject: Re: any publicschool teachers add their job onto an existing Reply with quote

xCustomx wrote:
Has anyone ever had an evening job, like 6-10pm, or something similar, with a company willing to sponsor an e2 and then received permission to work at a public school during the day? i have emailed SMOE as to whether or not this is possible, and am still waiting to hear from them. the school has said it is legal, a recruiter for SMOE said its not legal, so I'm trying to reach SMOE directly.

It would seem to me like it would be ok, as long as the school sponsoring the e2 provides paperwork to immigration, giving permission to work a 2nd job. The recruiter I spoke to said that the the company who sponsors the e2 must be your primary place of employment, which also means that you must be working more hours there than at the public job (which would not be the case in this situation). anyways, any info is appreciated. thanks


BigBuds wrote:
Yes, you can have a second job as long as your primary employer allows it and you have permission from immigration (it's a matter of filling out a form and paying 60,00 won). The only condition on it is that you must work more hours at your primary place of employment than at your secondary place of employment.


This is very true. Immigration USUALLY wants to see your new contract and both jobs work schedules.

The problem occurs (like with SMOE and now GEPIK) when it is against POE POLICY to allow you to work a second position. They typically demand an EXCLUSIVE (others milage may vary here) contract or they won't sign you.

They (the POE) are not able to deal with a number of one-off contracts with different terms so they boilerplate them to minimize any potential future problems and conflicts.
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xCustomx



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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2006 6:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

this is pulled from their ad on worknplay. the salary mentioned is 1.8/month, for working 3/4 hours a day:


"A chance to make over 3,200,000won teaching 6 hours a day.
Work 3~4hours at Wall Street and add a public school part time job legally.
Wall Street Institute is currently seeking qualified native English teachers to assist students in learning English. Teaching positions are available for motivated teachers to teach between 15 and 20 hours a week. Included in this package is severence pay, retirement pay which is matched by Wall Street Institute, E-2 working visa, negotiable vacation, prepared materials, round trip E-2 fare, fair and understanding bosses, the best facilities in Korea, the most organized school in the world, and motivated adult students."
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ddeubel



Joined: 20 Jul 2005

PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2006 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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"A chance to make over 3,200,000won teaching 6 hours a day.
Work 3~4hours at Wall Street and add a public school part time job legally.
Wall Street Institute is currently seeking qualified native English teachers to assist students in learning English. Teaching positions are available for motivated teachers to teach between 15 and 20 hours a week. Included in this package is severence pay, retirement pay which is matched by Wall Street Institute, E-2 working visa, negotiable vacation, prepared materials, round trip E-2 fare, fair and understanding bosses, the best facilities in Korea, the most organized school in the world, and motivated adult students."


This is just disingenious and misleading. One more reason why hagwons get the rap they do........

SMOE's contract has a clause of exclusivity. Probably for the reasons others have noted and also just for parity -- Koreans and other civil servants may not have another job, part or full time, either.

That said, I have heard of schools saying it is okay for the foreigner on staff to have another job. But that is as far as it gets because immigration would probably see the contract. But if you can bypass immigration's attention to this matter and keep it hush hush with the district school office or SMOE admin -- then you are in luck. But it could come back to haunt you and I don't ever see anyone getting a public school job AFTER already signing another contract.

DD
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