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War Eagle



Joined: 15 Feb 2009

PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 5:14 am    Post subject: Certificate of Employment? Huh? Reply with quote

This came up in another thread. OculisOrbis wrote:

Employers are required to immediately provide a certificate of employment whenever requested by a current or former employers (less than 3 years removed) as long as the employee has worked for more than 30 days. The employer must provide only the details that the employee requests and you dont have to complete your contract or give notice of resignation to receive it.

What is this? Can anyone at anytime request this? I am in need of some sort of proof of employment from my employer to hopefully bypass a bad refrence from them (long story).
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dorian_gray



Joined: 04 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 5:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, Oculis Orbis is totally right on this one.

From your current employer you can request a form called:

재직증명서
(proof of current employment)

From a former employer you can request a form called:

경력증명서
(work history record)

They must produce these forms immediately. It will show your name, ARC number, address and the date of your employment (usually it's on official looking letterhead of some sort). Hope this helps.
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War Eagle



Joined: 15 Feb 2009

PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks. I'll be requesting one tomorrow. Cheers.
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littlelisa



Joined: 12 Jun 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 6:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine gave me one immediately but charged me 400 won... is that normal? I mentioned it was cheap of them, but didn't fight for 400 won.
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zipper



Joined: 22 Jul 2009
Location: Ruben Carter was falsely accused

PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine had the following info. on it.

Statement of Employment

A: School

Name of School: ......................... School

School Address: .................................................
Gyeongnam, South Korea 637-803

Phone number: ...................................

B: Teacher

Name of Teacher: .................................

Passport Number: 00000000

Nationality: UK

Period of Employment:

From: month____Date___ Year_2008___

To: month _ __Date____Year_2009___

Type of Employment: Full time

Hereby, I testify that the above teacher has worked in my school as a full time English teacher.


2009. ____



Name of Director:

Signature:

If they don't know what you are talking about or not sure what the form looks like. You could always give them an example like this one. This format has worked for the last two jobs I have applied for.
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dorian_gray



Joined: 04 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

zipper wrote:
Mine had the following info. on it.

Statement of Employment

A: School

Name of School: ......................... School

School Address: .................................................
Gyeongnam, South Korea 637-803

Phone number: ...................................



This should probably part of official letterhead or watermarked paper.

Quote:

B: Teacher

Name of Teacher: .................................

Passport Number: 00000000

Nationality: UK

Period of Employment:

From: month____Date___ Year_2008___

To: month _ __Date____Year_2009___


This is fine, but I'd rather have the alien registration card number on the form ~ this proves that you are actually legal to work in Korea.
Quote:

Type of Employment: Full time

Hereby, I testify that the above teacher has worked in my school as a full time English teacher.


2009. ____



Name of Director:

Signature:

I think I'd want all this in Korean if you're applying to other jobs in Korea, but that's just me...
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dorian_gray



Joined: 04 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

littlelisa wrote:
Mine gave me one immediately but charged me 400 won... is that normal? I mentioned it was cheap of them, but didn't fight for 400 won.


You've asked about this before ~ yes, it's normal, it's up to the individual school. It's only 400 won after all...
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rookieglobetrotter



Joined: 19 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am in the 10 month of my yearlong PS contract. I just asked for a certificate of employment, they said they would only write the 10 months dates: 2/25/09 to 12/10/09 and not when I am supposed to be finished 02.25.10. Are they looking to fire me beforehand or is this standard procedure?
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OculisOrbis



Joined: 17 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you can't really have a record of employment that hasn't even been completed yet. you could ask them to provide the expected date of completion as additional info on the form if someone needs it to gauge your experience and update it when you finish. provide the complete official version to your new employer later.
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littlelisa



Joined: 12 Jun 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 4:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dorian_gray wrote:
littlelisa wrote:
Mine gave me one immediately but charged me 400 won... is that normal? I mentioned it was cheap of them, but didn't fight for 400 won.


You've asked about this before ~ yes, it's normal, it's up to the individual school. It's only 400 won after all...


I did? You're probably mixing me up with someone else, then, cause I did a quick search through my post history and didn't find anything where I asked this before.

For a second you had me thinking I was going crazy.

Yeah, that's exactly why I didn't make a fuss about the fee. I just thought it was strange. Anywhere else I've ever worked they've never charged me for proof that they employ me legally. Seems the kind of thing they normally wouldn't charge for. Not a big deal either way.
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dorian_gray



Joined: 04 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

littlelisa wrote:

You're probably mixing me up with someone else, then, cause I did a quick search through my post history and didn't find anything where I asked this before.


You're right, my mistake. I looked up the other thread about this and it was actually someone with the handle of "bradshaw" who asked if it was legal for the school to ask for 400 won. I guess I just assumed it was the same person because it was the same amount. Sorry for that Smile .
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dorian_gray



Joined: 04 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 5:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OculisOrbis wrote:
you can't really have a record of employment that hasn't even been completed yet.


You're right, but you can ask for the form ~ 재직증명서

I've asked several Korean speakers about this and the title of this form implies that you are employed there currently. They won't, however, post date it to show how long you will be working there.
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OculisOrbis



Joined: 17 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 5:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

just make your own form. as long it is the school name, business registration #, contact info and sig stamp to make it legal, you can request whatever info you want. it's also a good idea to get it translated so that it's in korean and english

contract start date: ------------------------
contract end date: ------------------------
contract duration (#of days): ------------
# of days employed to present:----------

there is no standard form.

Examples:재직증명서
http://images.google.com/images?q=%EC%9E%AC%EC%A7%81%EC%A6%9D%EB%AA%85%EC%84%9C&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=CP4gS9jbLpH-tQPJuJSQBQ&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=5&ved=0CDIQsAQwBA

Examples:경력증명서
http://images.google.com/images?oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&q=%EA%B2%BD%EB%A0%A5%EC%A6%9D%EB%AA%85%EC%84%9C&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=N_8gS_e4O5L0sgOvytmcBQ&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=5&ved=0CDEQsAQwBA
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zipper



Joined: 22 Jul 2009
Location: Ruben Carter was falsely accused

PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dorian_gray wrote:
zipper wrote:
Mine had the following info. on it.

Statement of Employment

A: School

Name of School: ......................... School

School Address: .................................................
Gyeongnam, South Korea 637-803

Phone number: ...................................



This should probably part of official letterhead or watermarked paper.

Quote:

B: Teacher

Name of Teacher: .................................

Passport Number: 00000000

Nationality: UK

Period of Employment:

From: month____Date___ Year_2008___

To: month _ __Date____Year_2009___


This is fine, but I'd rather have the alien registration card number on the form ~ this proves that you are actually legal to work in Korea.
Quote:

Type of Employment: Full time

Hereby, I testify that the above teacher has worked in my school as a full time English teacher.


2009. ____



Name of Director:

Signature:

I think I'd want all this in Korean if you're applying to other jobs in Korea, but that's just me...


That�s really a wonderful idea, and I am going to ask my Korean colleague to modify my forms according to your suggestions.

Nevertheless, the principal�s name and phone number is stamped on the lower right side of each of my documents; thereby authenticating them for future reference by other schools.

Thanks dorian_gray! Very Happy
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naturegirl321



Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Home sweet home

PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the employer doesn't give you a cert of employment what can you do?
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