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tomato



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.

PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 12:23 am    Post subject: disciplinary techniques Reply with quote

Here are some of my favorites.
What are some of yours?

If all the students don't recite, recognize those students who recite.

If only two students are reading the sentence aloud with you, say, "Thank you, John. Thank you, Suzy."

Betcha you will get more cooperation on the next sentence.

Make a seating change.

"Timmy, here are five beautiful girls sitting over here. Wouldn't you just love to sit with them?"

"You wouldn't? Then I hope it won't be necessary."

Dismiss the perfectly behaving students five minutes early.

I have statistics to prove that this technique works.

At 5:00, I have a class of 10 kids who at first threatened my sanity. For each session, I keep a list of those students who hangukmall. If a student lasts the whole 50 minutes without hangukmalling, I let that student leave early.

This past week, I broke my own record twice. One day, 5 students earned the privilege of leaving early. The next day, 6 students earned that privilege.

Be sure that those last five minutes are not spent on anything entertaining. Reviewing the textbook is the most boring activity I can think of, so that is how I spend the last five minutes.

If a student interrupts an activity, repeat the activity until that student stops interrupting.

TOMATO: Let's read the sentence at the top of page 59: "What do you want? I want milk."
OTHER STUDENTS: "What do you want? I want milk."
PATRICK: 토마토 바보.
[OTHER STUDENTS laugh.]

TOMATO: Let's read that again and see if Patrick will join us: "What do you want? I want milk."
OTHER STUDENTS: "What do you want? I want milk."
PATRICK: 토마토 바보.
[OTHER STUDENTS ignore PATRICK.]

TOMATO: Let's read that again and see if Patrick will join us: "What do you want? I want milk."
OTHER STUDENTS: "What do you want? I want milk."
PATRICK: 토마토 바보.
OTHER STUDENTS: Patrick, 야!

If a student falls asleep, wake that child up with a gross motor activity.

A younger class probably needs a gross motor break anyway.

Have the class sing:



Repeat the stanza, using the words "hop," "run," "dance," "stamp," and "tiptoe."

If the student doesn't get up to perform the action song with the class, pick her up by the armpits and hold her up.

In my 3:00 class, I have had trouble with Lina falling asleep in class. My director heaped ashes on my head because I had this problem on Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays when the Korean teacher didn't have this problem on Tuesdays and Thursdays--or at least she didn't report it. The Korean teacher must be a much more stimulating teacher than I am. Why can't I be like her?

Heaping ashes on my head didn't solve anything, so I tried this approach.
It worked.

Approach the student who misbehaves.

While the class is reciting and Jake is misbehaving, move uncomfortably close to Jake and continue reciting with a little extra emotion.

Does Jake hate you? Good! This is a chance to put that hatred to good use.
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poet13



Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.

PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use the repetition also. It works well as the students dont like to repeat very much. If they really are getting out of hand, I will announce that it is obvious that they are not advanced or mature enough for this section (boys 13-15), so we will go back to the last section. That sobers them up pretty quickly. I also use "baseball". three strikes in any class and they lose game day on friday. game day is vocabulary games (NOT hangman), etc.
All in all, I have very well behaved classes.
I think the keys to classroom discipline are fairness and consistency and I dont know what to call it, but when i discipline is finished, it's finished. The disciplined child is not made to feel bad or shamed beyond the actual moment of discipline and certainly not carried over to the next class.

I know I should be slammed for what i guess you would call 'negative reinforcement', but I havent learned yet how to use positive reinforcement very well. I have watched some of the tapes (someone posted the link here a week or so ago) from some british super-teacher, and learned some from that.
I would aslo love to hear suggestions on positive reinforcement and the rational behind the methodology...
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plattwaz



Joined: 08 Apr 2005
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 6:43 pm    Post subject: Re: disciplinary techniques Reply with quote

tomato wrote:
Here are some of my favorites.
What are some of yours?

If all the students don't recite, recognize those students who recite.

If only two students are reading the sentence aloud with you, say, "Thank you, John. Thank you, Suzy."

Betcha you will get more cooperation on the next sentence.



After my first year of trying to get the students to do what I wanted (sit properly, listen, repeat sentences, write nicely, do their work, etc etc etc) I learned this technique from a co-worker. I truly felt stupid when I saw how it worked -- I think it's one of those things that helps you know the difference between a certified/trained teacher, and someone like me who came over here having never been in a classroom before. It made my life so much easier, and my classrooms have run much more smoothly since adopting this technique. I use it for EVERYTHING.

"Ohhh, wow, look how nicely David is sitting! I wonder who else can sit as nicely as David?"

"Ohhh Jennifer, your writing is so nice and neat! I love how you are taking your time!" (Other students peek over to see Jennifer's paper, realize it's nice, and start to try their best).

"Wow, Tommy, you are such a good listener! I love when students listen to the teacher!"

"Sarah, very good job of repeating! You are doing so well today!"

"Matthew, you are so good at cleaning up! The classroom is so tidy! thank you for helping me so much!" (Bam! Ten students are on the ground picking up the mess from art class and it's done in 2 minutes, while I am busy setting up the next activity)!

Things like this make all of the other students want to be recognized by the teacher as well as the first one. I try to make sure that each student has their "moment" every single day -- sometimes it's hard to with the little devils who just don't care, but it also forces me to notice that the one kid who won't line up, sit down, speak English, clean up, or do anything at all, is perhaps the best one at pushing his chair in, or changing his shoes and putting on his coat all by himself.

It truly truly truly saved me so much stress and frustration -- no more "Jennifer! I asked you to sit nicely! Sit down NOW!" and having her not listen, not answer, or just plain ignore me. That used to frustrate me and I felt such a failure for having students who didn't listen to me.

Often, the others will chime in and help out. I say "Ohh Chris, you sit so nicely! I wonder who else can sit nicely like Chris?" Two others sit up in their chairs. "Wow, Julia, Michael, you also sit properly in your chairs!" A second later Julia is saying "Teacher, Sarah sits nicely!" I agree with her. It gets to the point where one student still has no clue what is going on -- rocking on his chair, about to fall off, playing transformers with his fingers in the air, ("vrrroommmmmm, puuhchoooo!"). Inevitably the other students will say "Teacher! Robbie! Robbie is no sit nicely!" I jsut agree, sadly. "I know. Robbie doesn't know how to sit nicely. It makes the teacher very sad." The children look sad, and they know that next time, they really want to make sure to sit nicely, so as not to make the teacher sad.

Love it!
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stakay



Joined: 16 Jul 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 6:49 pm    Post subject: Re: disciplinary techniques Reply with quote

tomato wrote:

Make a seating change.

"Timmy, here are five beautiful girls sitting over here. Wouldn't you just love to sit with them?"

"You wouldn't? Then I hope it won't be necessary.".


Seating changes also work very well for me. I teach in a hagwon so I have small classes. I prefer the kids to be in one row, shaped in a semi-circle. I move the seats at the beginning of every class, and I especially make a point of this with classes who behave worse than others. Without me even beginning my lesson, they are obeying me and doing something that I want them to do.


tomato wrote:

Approach the student who misbehaves.

While the class is reciting and Jake is misbehaving, move uncomfortably close to Jake and continue reciting with a little extra emotion.

Does Jake hate you? Good! This is a chance to put that hatred to good use.


This also works very well for me. I often go one step further and place my hand on the book of the child who is misbehaving. They HATE that. I'll also give them a huge smile, get down on their eye level, and ask them if they are ok/feeling sick/tired... Being overly nice and caring really confuses the naughty little darlings.


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poet13



Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.

PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will try that. I do do some positive I guess. I tell them when they have done something well, and when we go around the room (small classes) doing repetition, I try to find something good to say about even the most mangled sentences and diction... My kids also look to me for "the smile".
When they have finished reading or reciting, they look to me for approval. usualyl they get it, and its great to see them light up with pride to know that they did well.
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flotsam



Joined: 28 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 9:07 pm    Post subject: Re: disciplinary techniques Reply with quote

stakay wrote:

I'll also give them a huge smile, get down on their eye level, and ask them if they are ok/feeling sick/tired... Being overly nice and caring really confuses the naughtly little darlings.


Working with teenagers I have found taking the time to do this is essential both for the reason you mentioned and also because as teens, there is a 75% probability there is some earth-crushing event that just put them in a mood:

"Mr. flotsam, Minsu told E-hwa that I love her!!"

etc.
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jacl



Joined: 31 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Provide a shocking moment. Repeat. Stay on top.

The new teacher asked after she was checking out my class, "How do you get them to listen?" I said, "I don't know. Hitler?"
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stakay



Joined: 16 Jul 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 1:01 am    Post subject: Re: disciplinary techniques Reply with quote

flotsam wrote:

Working with teenagers I have found taking the time to do this is essential both for the reason you mentioned and also because as teens, there is a 75% probability there is some earth-crushing event that just put them in a mood:

"Mr. flotsam, Minsu told E-hwa that I love her!!"

etc.



Yes, I used to teach teenagers, and they respond well to a teacher who actually gives them the time of day and asks how they are. Sometimes when I taught highschool kids with a really bad attitude I would talk to them in private after class for a couple of reasons - if there is a real problem behind the behaviour no one else will be around to hear, and also because it develops a little extra rapport with that student, even if the conversation didn't go too well. I always thought, hey, I might be the only adult in this kid's life who's given a damn today. Often a kid would still give me hell in the next class, but at least there's a system set up where I can talk to them again after class.

I had many success cases doing this, and other teachers (with 20 more years experience) would wonder how it worked. Once I had ongoing troubles with a kid who ended up leaving my school and another teacher said to me 'gee you must feel bad about wasting your time with this kid'. I couldn't believe her attitude, and I replied with, 'well, I don't think that kid is ever going to forget me'.

Every tiny bit of effort with kids is worth it, in my opinion.
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some waygug-in



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 2:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you all for posting your helpful ideas.

I need all the help I can get.....and then some. Embarassed
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