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baklava



Joined: 11 May 2006

PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 7:26 pm    Post subject: need some encouragement Reply with quote

Here's my situation. I have two paths I can take. I can accept a high school teaching position in the states or come to Korea and accept the offer I've received in Seoul. I think that going to Korea is the right thing to do but I just need some encouragement. Any thoughts? If I go, I'd be starting in early July.
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SPINOZA



Joined: 10 Jun 2005
Location: $eoul

PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I encourage you. Go you!!!!!!!!1
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mmstyle



Joined: 17 Apr 2006
Location: wherever

PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's most important to you right now? How do your goals fit into the two options you have? Is there a reason you think Korea is right? Or a reason you'd rather stay in the States? I encourage you to do what makes the most sense, or what you need, or heck, if it's what matters most, what you want!

Stability?
Money?
Adventure?
Being around people who understand you best?
Creating the career you want?
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Alan Partidge



Joined: 29 Nov 2005

PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What kind of teaching job have you been offered in Seoul? What are the conditions of the contract?(contracts often mean nothing anyway) Are there any other foreign teachers there and have you spoken to them? Korea really is a lottery; I've met people who really lucked out and some others with nightmare stories.
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kangnam mafioso



Joined: 27 Jan 2003
Location: Teheranno

PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WHATEVER YOU DO NEVER TEACH IN A PUBLIC SCHOOL ANYWHERE IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA! NEVER! IT IS THE MOST RIDICULOUS, LOWLY PAID, UNAPPRECIATED, STRESSFUL AND TEDIOUS JOB YOU WILL EVER EXPERIENCE! I WOULD RATHER WORK IN A FACTORY ON AN ASSEMBLY LINE THAN EVER STEP FOOT ANYWHERE NEAR ANOTHER PUBLIC AMERICAN SCHOOL! I'M GOING TO GO THROW UP NOW!
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SPINOZA



Joined: 10 Jun 2005
Location: $eoul

PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 10:49 pm    Post subject: Re: need some encouragement Reply with quote

baklava wrote:
Here's my situation. I have two paths I can take. I can accept a high school teaching position in the states or come to Korea and accept the offer I've received in Seoul. I think that going to Korea is the right thing to do but I just need some encouragement. Any thoughts? If I go, I'd be starting in early July.


Sorry about my previous reply. I was being daft. I assume you've been offered a public school job in Seoul, or not? I'm in a Seoul middle school myself. It's a great gig, but public schools are a lottery like the hagwons. I'm renewing though and loads of people I know are too. Give the Seoul gig a try I say. Korean kids will like you a lot. American kids probably won't. Eventually I'll probably return to my country and be a teacher, but I know for a fact that after 5 minutes in a classroom back home I'll miss Korea desperately.
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rothkowitz



Joined: 27 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Give it a go,but never let your float go under a set limit.If you want to pull the plug,then you can.
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Lemonade



Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would be a good idea to bring along with you at least $2,000 USD just incase "things don't work out" For every good story told here, there's ten untold bad stories.

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ilovebdt



Joined: 03 Jun 2005
Location: Nr Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Come to Korea.
America will still be there when you finish your contract and if you don't like your job in Korea after having given it a good go you can head home.

Life's too short to stay in the same place.

ilovebdt
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riley



Joined: 08 Feb 2003
Location: where creditors can find me

PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the choice is between a public school in the U.S. or a hagwon here, I'd probably stick with the public school. I don't know what job you were offered here. One point to make, if you are teaching here, you can claim to be doing ESL work, so hopefully should help your resume for future teaching jobs in the U.S.
Good Luck
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joyfulgirl



Joined: 05 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 2:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

life and its damn choices. i always wonder about this, 'cause i'd been accepted to uni, in the education program at the exact same time i was applying and getting job offers from korea. i was a bit lost, obviously...and applying to everything at that point...uni and korea. but i could be an actual real teacher in canada at this point, had i done that. (that was 3 years ago) like, dude, with an rrsp and a place that was mine, not the hagwon's, etc. etc...and some days i wish i'd chosen that. but, oh well...i think it was better to come here. maybe not better, but at least more interesting. home's not going anywhere...i'd say come here.
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ChopChaeJoe



Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

By your post, it sounds like you are willing to move away from friends and family for a year, so the what is stopping you from coming?

You can probably save mo9re money here, even if you are paid less than a teaching gig in the U.S. Plus, you have a very good chance here of teaching children that like you and want to please you, instead of the mental anguish hell of American public schools.

Koreans are mostly friendly, and even if they hate you, they do it in a passively agressive way. And no gun violence.

On the other hand, Korea has many, many crazy drivers, and motorcycles that chase you up the sidewalk. And it's crowded in the big cities. The idea of personal space is crazy talk here. And it's polluted as hell. I can't count the number of sore throats and coughs I've gotten. And if you're an alcoholic, don't even think about coming here. There are no alcohol restrictions and alcohol is extremely cheap. You'll never have a sober day.

I think that most who come here are pleased for doing so.
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baklava



Joined: 11 May 2006

PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wanted to thank all of you for your posts. I've read enough on here to know intellectually what I'm getting myself into. I have a friend in Seoul who looked over the contract and it's a good one. As far as the anti-american school stuff, I hear ya but someone has to care about the kids above the system, especially because of the system, etc. I'll be an american high school teacher and teenagers need cool teachers that care. That said, I know that it will be back waiting for me when I get back. It's just not often you get two good opportunities in your life at the same time. Doing something new there's always a risk...
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Mr. Literal



Joined: 03 Jul 2003
Location: Third rock from the Sun.

PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

baklava wrote:
I'll be an american high school teacher and teenagers need cool teachers that care.


If you actually think that the kids will care that you care, then you are sadly, sadly mistaken and need to reread kangnam's post.

I have taught in many different schools in the States. Regardless of where I went, each and every job was awful, with a capital A. I wish to God that I had not wasted the time, money and energy that I had to obtain a degree in Education.

I know what you're thinking: "Well, I'm not him. I love teaching and will be a cool and caring teacher. Kids will respond to me because of this."

I've got a news flash for you: Be prepared to be treated in a manner unlike you've ever been treated. Teachers are lower than doormats in America and are treated as such.
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blaseblasphemener



Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be

PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP,

I'm a teacher back in Canada, but came here for a year, and have never looked back. Going on 3 years now. Korea has an enormous ESL industry, so keep in mind, if you somehow get a raw deal, you can regroup and once your in the country, can look around and find a job that suits you. I've never had a bad gig here, but living here is super cheap, and if you have even a little bit of money, you can come over here knowing you have options. Your best bet is do your research. google your school's name and find out what others have said about it. Does it have a good rep? Ask for a list of 10 teachers from the school and their emails, then email them and see what they have to say about the school. Read between the lines. They may not come out and tell you a bunch of bad stuff, but if they seem mum or low key, take that for what it's worth.
Remember this: there are tremendous upsides to coming to Korea; money, experiencing a different culture, travel to other countries in Asia, ease of lifestyle (don't take a double shift hagwon!) etc. etc. Can you say the same for a job in a high school in the U.S.? And, if you take a job here, there will always be jobs back home. If you are a good saver, you will be able to save a ton of money quickly, and can return to the U.S. with many more options.
Sorry, I've gone long, but I would definitely tell you to expand your horizons, and wallet, and after doing your homework, come on over. good luck!
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