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Hollywoodaction
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 Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 7:27 pm Post subject: Korean soccer players and the military |
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http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/200606/kt2006061617430068040.htm
It's hardly news. The law has been in the books since 2002.
Gee, I wonder why the government thought it was necessary to mention that they could be exempted from the draft just a few days before the next game. |
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Guri Guy
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| Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Hmmm... Too bad. I suppose that gives some players extra motivation to reach the next stage. Win or be *nally *****. To put it crudely. Yikes... |
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Hollywoodaction
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| Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Also gives the impression that the government thinks they'll win and renews hope for the fans. |
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On the other hand
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| Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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Here's a question:
If your homeland had mandatory military service, how do you think simliar exemptions for star athletes would go over with the general public?
My guess is not too well. The closest I can think of for Canada would be sayng that the Olympic hockey players get a three year tax holiday if they make gold. I'd wager most Canadians would be up in arms if that were announced.
But most Koreans I've discussed the matter with seem okay with military exemptions for star athletes. So, I'm not about to tell them otherwise. However, I think it's only a matter of time before the same cynicism that we have about professional athletes sets in over here, at which point the average person will be saying "Jesus man, these guys are already getting paid to do something that most of us do for fun, why the hell should they get special rewards for it?" |
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On the other hand
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| Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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The Supreme Court on Thursday upheld a lower court's ruling against a Jehovah's Witness, bringing an end to months-long legal disputes over the refusal of mandatory military service by ``conscientious objectors'' due to their religious beliefs.
The ruling against the 25-year-old, identified by the surname Choi, will likely serve as the guidelines for lower courts in dealing with around 300 other similar cases. As some judges recently made conflicting rulings on the conscientious objection in past months, district courts earlier said they would await the ruling by the Supreme Court to make a decision on the thorny matter.
``Individual freedom of conscience can't be more important than accepting calls of duty for the defense of their own country,'' the 13-member Supreme Court panel said in its ruling. ``Choi violated the military draft law by refusing to receive military training.''
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Apparently, lofty notions like "making it to the last 16" carry more weight than piddly-ass stuff like individual freedom of conscience.
http://www.religionnewsblog.com/7864-.html |
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Hollywoodaction
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| Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 3:33 am Post subject: |
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Here's a question:
If your homeland had mandatory military service, how do you think simliar exemptions for star athletes would go over with the general public?
My guess is not too well. The closest I can think of for Canada would be sayng that the Olympic hockey players get a three year tax holiday if they make gold. I'd wager most Canadians would be up in arms if that were announced.
But most Koreans I've discussed the matter with seem okay with military exemptions for star athletes. So, I'm not about to tell them otherwise. However, I think it's only a matter of time before the same cynicism that we have about professional athletes sets in over here, at which point the average person will be saying "Jesus man, these guys are already getting paid to do something that most of us do for fun, why the hell should they get special rewards for it?" |
It will continue as long as Koreans see these guys as a means to grasp international attention. And being that the Korean soccer players aren't the thugs and steroid monsters that American football and basketball players can be, I don't expect a player to suddenly change all that by beating up a hooker, shooting up a nightclub, or murdering someone in a fit of road rage. The biggest scandal they've produced was a player badmouthing his teammates. Either these guys are squeeky clean or someone has a tight control on the press. I like to think it's the former. |
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mindmetoo
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| Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 6:25 am Post subject: |
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| Didn't one of Saddam's sons torture Iraq's national team when they did poorly? One of his sons was head of Iraq's Olympic committee. I remember for that World Baseball Classic the players all got their military exemption and then promptly lost the next game and were out of the series. |
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inspector gadget
Joined: 11 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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| They also exempted the Korean baseball team when they made it a long way into the World Baseball Classic as posted above. After that i asked my collegues what they thought about it and they were all for it, no problem they said. |
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Privateer
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| Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 12:56 am Post subject: |
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| If these players can enhance Korea's reputation in football then they're doing their bit for the country, and it's just a waste to make a talented player use up 2.5 of his best years in the military. |
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On the other hand
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| Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 3:07 am Post subject: |
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| If these players can enhance Korea's reputation in football then they're doing their bit for the country, and it's just a waste to make a talented player use up 2.5 of his best years in the military. |
Okay, but where do you draw the line? What about the actors and musicians in the hallyu(Korean wave)? It could be argued that they are enhancing Korea's reputation in film and music. So should they get exemptions as well? |
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Hollywoodaction
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| Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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| If these players can enhance Korea's reputation in football then they're doing their bit for the country, and it's just a waste to make a talented player use up 2.5 of his best years in the military. |
Okay, but where do you draw the line? What about the actors and musicians in the hallyu(Korean wave)? It could be argued that they are enhancing Korea's reputation in film and music. So should they get exemptions as well? |
What about kids who do a lot of volunteer work? They certainly make a strong contribution to Korean society. |
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On the other hand
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| Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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On the other hand wrote:
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If these players can enhance Korea's reputation in football then they're doing their bit for the country, and it's just a waste to make a talented player use up 2.5 of his best years in the military.
Okay, but where do you draw the line? What about the actors and musicians in the hallyu(Korean wave)? It could be argued that they are enhancing Korea's reputation in film and music. So should they get exemptions as well?
What about kids who do a lot of volunteer work? They certainly make a strong contribution to Korean society. |
I think you're making my argument for me. Why NOT give military exemption to kids who do a lot of volunteer work, if we're also gonna give them to soccer players. |
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