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Should I write my own contract?

 
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RachaelRoo



Joined: 15 Jul 2005
Location: Anywhere but Ulsan!

PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 8:08 am    Post subject: Should I write my own contract? Reply with quote

I'm going to be looking for another job in Korea soon, and I'm thinking that I should just write my own contract and try to get the employer to sign it (with a few of their own changes) instead of letting it go the other way around, as it usually does.
Often, the recruiter writes the contract so they aren't consistent for the school anyways. At least that's how it works at my current hagwon.
With all this contract talk on Dave's lately I could probably put one together easily.

So whaddaya think? Good idea or bad idea?
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ontheway



Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...

PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

First you should look at a variety of jobs, talk to employers and find a position that seems to be the kind of place you'd like to work with general terms that are acceptable. Then, if the terms and conditions seem OK in general, you proceed to the contract.

Some schools will have a fairly standard contract, they have already decided how the school is going to be run and you can't change much. You can negotiate salary, overtime and other financial terms, but not terms regarding operations, hours of operation, number of classes, length of classes, class sizes, airplane ticket payment, vacations, holidays etc. Look it over. You can make clarifications and possibly minor changes in the terms, but basically it's "take it or leave it." Many well organized and well run schools are like this.

Other schools have bad contracts they've borrowed from some recruiter, association or another school, or who knows. Maybe you find they have no written contract on hand at all. This is your opportunity to write your own contract. You can show how fair and reasonable you are and get a good deal on paper. Many times employers will be grateful to have you do it. You will know from your preliminary discussions if this option is available to you.

Good luck.
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pgplummer



Joined: 10 Jun 2006
Location: Canada

PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 1:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Should I write my own contract? Reply with quote

RachaelRoo wrote:
I'm going to be looking for another job in Korea soon, and I'm thinking that I should just write my own contract and try to get the employer to sign it (with a few of their own changes) instead of letting it go the other way around, as it usually does.
Often, the recruiter writes the contract so they aren't consistent for the school anyways. At least that's how it works at my current hagwon.
With all this contract talk on Dave's lately I could probably put one together easily.

So whaddaya think? Good idea or bad idea?


It is a great idea to have a contract you write. As mentioned before, many schools have their own that they use and have their schedule set up already. If you take your contract and combine it with the known facts about the school then you can usually get your contract to work. All this is provided that the hours work for you and the times and days of work.

The big changes that you usually have to make are the correct percentages for pension, taxes and healthcare and inclusions for your residence. Many of the clauses are standard but just need to be clarified more.

I have written my last three contracts and with some small negotiations, my contract was the signed one. If you would like some assistance feel free to PM me and I will send you a copy of my starter contract.

Good Luck

CHEERS
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sadsac



Joined: 22 Dec 2003
Location: Gwangwang

PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As with pgplummer, I to have written my own contract for the last 5 years and it's consistent with the labour laws of Korea, as much as they are consistent. It works and I can't complain because it's all my own handy work. Smile
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cubanlord



Joined: 08 Jul 2005
Location: In Japan!

PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I too wrote my own contract (as well as the school's contract). I do feel it is beneficial to have your own. That way you know what is happening and can't hold anyone else accountable for the booboo's but yourself. At least that's how I feel.
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bellum99



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: don't need to know

PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You know some newbie is going to write a contract that is totally biased to himself and no school will follow it even if they sign it. Try to make sure you know what you are doing when you write it. It may take some skill to convince the Korean school owner to sign your (it is written in English).
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