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mindmetoo



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 3:30 pm    Post subject: True Canadian spirit regarding terrorism Reply with quote

http://www.cbc.ca/story/arts/national/2006/06/09/comedy-bomb-plot.html

Now I think this article really reflects the better side of Canada. First, even something as horrifying as a bomb plot, we quickly find humor in it. Second, we find nothing offensive about Americans making fun of Canada, even in the face of this disturbing turn of events. I love Stewart's line about hating Canada:

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On Thursday night, Stewart appeared incredulous at the allegation that one of the suspects spoke out about hating Canada.

"You hate Canada? That's like saying I hate toast. It's not the kind of thing that inspires passion in either direction," he said. "I can understand being angry at us [Americans]. We're arrogant, leading the whole war on terror. But Canada?"
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Hollywoodaction



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 10:29 pm    Post subject: Re: True Canadian spirit regarding terrorism Reply with quote

mindmetoo wrote:
http://www.cbc.ca/story/arts/national/2006/06/09/comedy-bomb-plot.html

Now I think this article really reflects the better side of Canada. First, even something as horrifying as a bomb plot, we quickly find humor in it. Second, we find nothing offensive about Americans making fun of Canada, even in the face of this disturbing turn of events. I love Stewart's line about hating Canada:

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On Thursday night, Stewart appeared incredulous at the allegation that one of the suspects spoke out about hating Canada.

"You hate Canada? That's like saying I hate toast. It's not the kind of thing that inspires passion in either direction," he said. "I can understand being angry at us [Americans]. We're arrogant, leading the whole war on terror. But Canada?"


Had they planned to bomb a Tim Horton's, we'd have a very different story. Surprised
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igotthisguitar



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Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)

PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 2:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Court imposes publication ban on terror case


Lawyers, Muslims criticize pub ban in terror case as "publication scam"
Mon Jun 12, 03:00 PM EST
By Gregory Bonnell

BRAMPTON, Ont. (CP) - A justice of the peace involved in the case against 17 terror suspects has imposed a publication ban on the proceedings.

The ban was met with criticism from Muslims and defence lawyers outside the Brampton, Ont., courtroom where many of the arrested men appeared Monday.

"We call it a publication scam," Ahmad Shehab, a Muslim counsellor said outside the courthouse.



"If you accuse people you might as well show things, clear, transparent, due process, crystal clear evidence so the public could see," he said.

Defence lawyer Arif Raza said much of the information is already in the public domain, so he sees no need for a ban now.

"Rather than have speculation in the press, I think that justice would be better served by accurately reporting what precisely had happened in the court rather than speculate."

A lawyer representing one of the accused says the Crown had no right to seek a blanket publication ban after feeding so many damaging accusations to the media about the suspects.

"After they've had 10 days with the media, feeding the media whatever they want to feed the media, denying us disclosure of any evidence and doing what they need to do to conduct a trial in this parking lot of this courthouse, they now have the audacity to request a blanket publication ban of all proceedings from today's date," Rocco Galati said outside court before the ban was imposed.

Galati, who represents Ahmad Mustafa Ghany, a 21-year-old health sciences graduate of McMaster University, said he wants the allegations against his client to be known.

"I want the public to know exactly the allegations against my client," he said.

"I want the public to see the bail hearing, I want the public to assess for itself and have confidence in the administration of justice and the only way to do that is with a live feed."

Also outside court, Galati said the men are being kept in isolation in rooms that are lit 24 hours a day. He said they are being woken up every half hour.

Another lawyer said outside court that his client was beaten by a guard after he giggled because he felt ticklish while being searched.

David Kolinsky said the guard pinned his client to the ground, drilled his knuckle into the man's cheek and said, "is this funny?"

"Under the convention against torture and other cruel and unusual punishment the instances of mistreatment that defence counsel have cited as going on at the jail constitute torture," Galati told reporters.

Galati said the men have been denied access to their lawyers and have been allowed no time outdoors for five straight days.

He said the accused are given only five minutes to eat their meals or else the food is taken away
.

The men are not allowed to speak to anyone, including the guards, and are being forced to keep their eyes on the floor at all times.

"When they are escorted or walked from point A to point B, they must walk at a 90-degree angle with their legs upright and their torso across at a 90-degree angle with handcuffs stretched out and be escorted by three armed tactical members of the security forces," Galati said.

The lawyer called the treatment of the men and youths "unprecedented" and said the suspects have been publicly declared guilty by the prime minister, the mayor of Toronto and some Muslim community leaders.

These and other actions associated with the case call into question whether the accused could now get fair treatment by the justice system, the lawyer said.
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