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kiwigirl :O)



Joined: 05 Jan 2006
Location: Bundang

PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 9:42 pm    Post subject: separating food waste from the rest of the garbage... Reply with quote

who actually does it???
i dont..i have heard that there are people that go through the garbage checking to make sure the garbage has been sorted properly!
and if someone is id'd then they can be fined for not sorting it properly

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desultude



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: Dangling my toes in the Persian Gulf

PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 9:48 pm    Post subject: Re: separating food waste from the rest of the garbage... Reply with quote

kiwigirl :O) wrote:
who actually does it???
i dont..i have heard that there are people that go through the garbage checking to make sure the garbage has been sorted properly!
and if someone is id'd then they can be fined for not sorting it properly

Shocked


In our building (university apartments) we have an ajuma who sorts everything every day. She has a set of tongs, and it takes half her day.

Most of us are good and sort our stuff before it goes out (my food wasted goes in a ziplock bag in the freezer till it is full- no slop!). But there are some who toss it in together, and never stop to notice how the ajuma spends half her day. Evil or Very Mad

Hey, the food waste gets recycled. I'm all for it. Here you can't have a garbage disposal, and you must recycle the food waste: where I am from in the States, every house has a disposal, and it is against the neighborhood rules to compost the food waste. Rolling Eyes

And I am always reading here where people think it is the Koreans who are illogical! Cool
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stumptown



Joined: 11 Apr 2005
Location: Paju: Wife beating capital of Korea

PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got that idea of freezing food waste until the bag gets full from you, desultude. Now I don't waste a thing. Good advice.
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casey's moon



Joined: 14 Sep 2004
Location: Daejeon

PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Desultude, after the freezer what happens? Do you defrost it a bit so it will slide into the bin? (Here, and I assume everywhere, we aren't supposed to throw the bags with the food garbage) What size of ziploc bags are you using and how many do you go through in a week or a month?

Your idea intrigues me.... I used to use one of those red things that makes all the water drain to the bottom, but it gets stinky really fast and I literally gag when it's time to throw it out. Ewwww.

Thanks!
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stumptown



Joined: 11 Apr 2005
Location: Paju: Wife beating capital of Korea

PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You just dump it out after it freezes. I don't use a ziplock bag, just the standard bags you get when you buy something at the convenience store. The frozen food doesn't stick to the bag or anything like that.
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casey's moon



Joined: 14 Sep 2004
Location: Daejeon

PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stumptown wrote:
You just dump it out after it freezes. I don't use a ziplock bag, just the standard bags you get when you buy something at the convenience store. The frozen food doesn't stick to the bag or anything like that.


I guess it wouldn't - - I think I was imagining frozen soup or something -- but yeah, that makes sense.

Thanks Wink
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thursdays child



Joined: 21 Sep 2005

PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have to admit..... I don't seperate the food waste. I used to...... I should... it smells.... i'm lazy...... sheeet feel guilty. Man I miss waste disposal units in the sink.
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desultude



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: Dangling my toes in the Persian Gulf

PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, it just slides right out of the bag.

Glad to be of help! Cool
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kiwigirl :O)



Joined: 05 Jan 2006
Location: Bundang

PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

that freezer thing is a good idea...
i dont actually have much food waste apart from like cereal that i cant finish and occasional vegetable roots etc Confused

i think that next time i will do the freezer thing as i feel guilty for not having done that before... Embarassed

i agree with thursdays child..do i miss in sink erators!!!! Very Happy
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jaderedux



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Lurking outside Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 1:18 am    Post subject: Re: separating food waste from the rest of the garbage... Reply with quote

desultude wrote:
kiwigirl :O) wrote:
who actually does it???
i dont..i have heard that there are people that go through the garbage checking to make sure the garbage has been sorted properly!
and if someone is id'd then they can be fined for not sorting it properly

Shocked


In our building (university apartments) we have an ajuma who sorts everything every day. She has a set of tongs, and it takes half her day.

Most of us are good and sort our stuff before it goes out (my food wasted goes in a ziplock bag in the freezer till it is full- no slop!). But there are some who toss it in together, and never stop to notice how the ajuma spends half her day. Evil or Very Mad

Hey, the food waste gets recycled. I'm all for it. Here you can't have a garbage disposal, and you must recycle the food waste: where I am from in the States, every house has a disposal, and it is against the neighborhood rules to compost the food waste. Rolling Eyes

And I am always reading here where people think it is the Koreans who are illogical! Cool


Recycling is a great thing. The problem with recycling food waste is frequently some meat bits get in the recycling process. Now that doesn't sound so awful except that those food wastes are often used as fertilizers and feed for cattle.

These animals SHOULD NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES eat any kind of meat product. That is why in the states and u.k. it is not permitted to recycle domestic (household food wastes or use meat byproducts as fertilizer.) There is speculation that this is how mad cow disease started.

Again recycling is great but food recycling should be done very judicially and hopefully this country has laws against domestic food wastes or bonemeal wastes being used as feed or fertilizer. Veg heads are not safe either because it was common practice for slaughter houses to sell dried blood as a fertilizer for farms. This practice was only recently stopped along with using bone meal for feed and fertilizer.

So sometimes there is method behind the maddness of not being allowed to compost food wastes.

Jade
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casey's moon



Joined: 14 Sep 2004
Location: Daejeon

PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 1:38 am    Post subject: Re: separating food waste from the rest of the garbage... Reply with quote

jaderedux wrote:
Recycling is a great thing. The problem with recycling food waste is frequently some meat bits get in the recycling process. Now that doesn't sound so awful except that those food wastes are often used as fertilizers and feed for cattle.

These animals SHOULD NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES eat any kind of meat product. That is why in the states and u.k. it is not permitted to recycle domestic (household food wastes or use meat byproducts as fertilizer.) There is speculation that this is how mad cow disease started.

Again recycling is great but food recycling should be done very judicially and hopefully this country has laws against domestic food wastes or bonemeal wastes being used as feed or fertilizer. Veg heads are not safe either because it was common practice for slaughter houses to sell dried blood as a fertilizer for farms. This practice was only recently stopped along with using bone meal for feed and fertilizer.

So sometimes there is method behind the maddness of not being allowed to compost food wastes.

Jade


This is something that has always bothered me about using food waste as feed, actually and I'm glad you brought it up. I try to make myself feel better by thinking that they must test the food and make sure there is no meat in it before they use it as feed..... scary stuff.
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Lizara



Joined: 14 Apr 2004
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't have that much food waste anyway. In my current apartment nobody seems to care what goes in my garbage. Last year the security ajosshi would go through everything and we'd get in trouble if we had anything in the wrong bin. I quickly learned to use those little black plastic bags you get from convenience stores to hide anything troublesome. I still do it; if nothing else, you can tie them up so things smell a lot less in the interval between when you throw them away and when you take out the trash.
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JongnoGuru



Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: peeing on your doorstep

PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My political views are normally about two small steps to the Left of Genghis Khan and it should grate on my small-government sensibilities to have the authorities meddle in something as personal as people's garbage. But this is the great exception, the one instance where I say "Meddle away!" I'm prepared to fight with my fists for a system of carrot & stick (literally, a big wooden stick) applied with tremendous force to the backsides of people (and posters) who don't comply with Korea's nitpicky garbage-separation rules. It seems the threat of fines aren't enough, so lay on the cane.
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ChopChaeJoe



Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 3:26 am    Post subject: Re: separating food waste from the rest of the garbage... Reply with quote

jaderedux wrote:

Recycling is a great thing. The problem with recycling food waste is frequently some meat bits get in the recycling process. Now that doesn't sound so awful except that those food wastes are often used as fertilizers and feed for cattle.

These animals SHOULD NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES eat any kind of meat product. That is why in the states and u.k. it is not permitted to recycle domestic (household food wastes or use meat byproducts as fertilizer.) There is speculation that this is how mad cow disease started.




Meat byproducts are sold as chicken feed in america. Chicken coop waste is sold as cattle feed. So the canibalization circle does continue in America. Shocked
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