Site Search:
 
Speak Korean Now!
Teach English Abroad and Get Paid to see the World!
Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index Korean Job Discussion Forums
"The Internet's Meeting Place for ESL/EFL Teachers from Around the World!"
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

(WC-related) Koreans attack Koreans for not cheering enough-
Goto page 1, 2  Next
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> Off-Topic Forum
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
hermes.trismegistus



Joined: 08 Sep 2005

PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 6:43 pm    Post subject: (WC-related) Koreans attack Koreans for not cheering enough- Reply with quote

As if any sane person didn't have enough reason to disdain these nationalists:

Quote:
Six Held in Brawl Over Lackluster World Cup Support

Police in the Gyeonggi Province city of Uijeongbu have booked six people after a brawl over the alleged lackluster enthusiasm of one group in cheering the Korean team during a World Cup match broadcast Monday.

Police say the six came to blows at around 4:15 a.m. while watching Korea play France in the World Cup on monitors at the Uijeong city sports stadium.

After France scored the first goal, two people, one of them an office worker identified as Kim, yelled at a group of four people in front, �What are you, traitors? Why don�t you root more vigorously?� Incensed, the four attacked Kim and the person with him, police said. (Chosun)


Perhaps in an effort to negate the negative image of cheering over the injury of a French player a few hours before, Koreans in Germany went to picking up trash.

Rolling Eyes

Namaste.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message AIM Address
periwinkle



Joined: 08 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

heh heh heh. "Why don't you root more vigorously?" God, if I had a nickel for everytime I said that..... Mr. Green
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
indytrucks



Joined: 09 Apr 2003
Location: The Shelf

PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Makes one wonder what would have happened if there were French supporters there.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
mithridates



Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency

PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nothing worse than a simplistic nationalist, that's for sure.

hermes.trismegistus wrote:
Too bad the game is so late, otherwise I could scream out my pleasure.

9 minutes in though, so still plenty of time...

oooh, and a yellow too!


Ooh, and a yellow too! *clasps hands*
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Newbie



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Happens in every country.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
hermes.trismegistus



Joined: 08 Sep 2005

PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mithridates wrote:
Nothing worse than a simplistic nationalist, that's for sure.


I have no room for nationalism or pride, or for those who advocate them.

I see no reason to support the Korean team, and numous reasons to support their opponents.

That has nothing to do with nationalism. It has to do with my disdain for their nationalism; among other criticisms.

Namaste.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message AIM Address
jinju



Joined: 22 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
After France scored the first goal, two people, one of them an office worker identified as Kim, yelled at a group of four people in front, �What are you, traitors? Why don�t you root more vigorously?� Incensed, the four attacked Kim and the person with him, police said. (Chosun)


Good for them. The guy desreved to get pummeled.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Hollywoodaction



Joined: 02 Jul 2004

PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 7:41 pm    Post subject: Re: (WC-related) Koreans attack Koreans for not cheering eno Reply with quote

hermes.trismegistus wrote:
As if any sane person didn't have enough reason to disdain these nationalists:

Quote:
Six Held in Brawl Over Lackluster World Cup Support

Police in the Gyeonggi Province city of Uijeongbu have booked six people after a brawl over the alleged lackluster enthusiasm of one group in cheering the Korean team during a World Cup match broadcast Monday.

Police say the six came to blows at around 4:15 a.m. while watching Korea play France in the World Cup on monitors at the Uijeong city sports stadium.

After France scored the first goal, two people, one of them an office worker identified as Kim, yelled at a group of four people in front, �What are you, traitors? Why don�t you root more vigorously?� Incensed, the four attacked Kim and the person with him, police said. (Chosun)


Perhaps in an effort to negate the negative image of cheering over the injury of a French player a few hours before, Koreans in Germany went to picking up trash.

Rolling Eyes

Namaste.


Well, that answers the question that someone asked in another thread after seeing the mess that was left in Seoul by the people who went to watch the Korea-Togo match.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Free World



Joined: 01 Apr 2005
Location: Drake Hotel

PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 8:33 pm    Post subject: Re: (WC-related) Koreans attack Koreans for not cheering eno Reply with quote

hermes.trismegistus wrote:
Koreans in Germany went to picking up trash.


That is amazing! Good for them! Those are great fans and they are sending a very positive message!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Junior



Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: the eye

PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 11:11 pm    Post subject: Re: (WC-related) Koreans attack Koreans for not cheering eno Reply with quote

Free World wrote:
hermes.trismegistus wrote:
Koreans in Germany went to picking up trash.


That is amazing! Good for them! Those are great fans and they are sending a very positive message!


Were they hoping to trade in all that cardboard for cash?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
EFLtrainer



Joined: 04 May 2005

PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 1:27 am    Post subject: Re: (WC-related) Koreans attack Koreans for not cheering eno Reply with quote

hermes.trismegistus wrote:
Perhaps in an effort to negate the negative image of cheering over the injury of a French player a few hours before, Koreans in Germany went to picking up trash.

Rolling Eyes

Namaste.


I was wondering if anyone else had noticed them cheering non-stop while the guy was being taken care of. I had the presence of mind not to mention it to any Koreans knowing 1. they wouldn't get it since few if any have any ide what crowds do in other countries at various kinds of public events and 2. they'd just get pissed off for it being pointed out if they did get it.

And, no, this isn't a bash. Americans sometimes cheer injuries to players, etc., but the difference is the vast majority of OTHER Americans consider them assholes. In Korea, it's a collective lack of awareness and/or rabid nationalism. Different reasons for similar behavior.

As for the trash, well, they take their trash out of theaters and such here, too. Consistent lot, those Koreans.

Duality lives.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Peeping Tom



Joined: 15 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 1:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hermes.trismegistus wrote:
mithridates wrote:
Nothing worse than a simplistic nationalist, that's for sure.


I have no room for nationalism or pride, or for those who advocate them.

I see no reason to support the Korean team, and numous reasons to support their opponents.

That has nothing to do with nationalism. It has to do with my disdain for their nationalism; among other criticisms.

Namaste.


That would have to be my reason for wishing their team the worst.

When I first came here, I likely would have cheered Korea on and joined in the celebration. Having lived here three years, I've learned better.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Fat Sam



Joined: 05 Dec 2005
Location: Gyeonggi-do

PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 2:09 am    Post subject: Re: (WC-related) Koreans attack Koreans for not cheering eno Reply with quote

Quote:
one of them an office worker identified as Kim


I love it when they do this. It only rounds him down to one fifth of the population. If the same story had been run in England, 'identifying' me by my surname instead of his, most of my family and friends would have known about the incident within a day.

I wonder if they have programmes over here such as Crimewatch, where the public are asked to phone in if they've seen recent criminals based on their description:

"The assailant, aged between 25 and 40, is believed to be around 170cm, slim, with short straight black hair and dark eyes, with a Seoul accent. Please contact us if you've seen him."
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
patchy1



Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Location: No, not patchy's sock. New account because old account got mucked up.

PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 2:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, it wasn't that people physically attacked other people for not cheering enough, it was the other way around. People attacked other people for saying they're not cheering enough.

That means that in Korea, if we are going to start generalizing, you cannot try and force people to show more patriotism otherwise you will be assaulted.

The OP has the whole incident back to front and before this becomes another 19-page thread of ignorant spitting at Korea, he needs to change the title.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Fat Sam



Joined: 05 Dec 2005
Location: Gyeonggi-do

PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 2:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

patchy1 wrote:
No, it wasn't that people physically attacked other people for not cheering enough, it was the other way around. People attacked other people for saying they're not cheering enough.

That means that in Korea, if we are going to start generalizing, you cannot try and force people to show more patriotism otherwise you will be assaulted.

The OP has the whole incident back to front and before this becomes another 19-page thread of ignorant spitting at Korea, he needs to change the title.


He's actually got a point.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> Off-Topic Forum All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Goto page 1, 2  Next
Page 1 of 2

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


This page is maintained by the one and only Dave Sperling.
Contact Dave's ESL Cafe
Copyright © 2018 Dave Sperling. All Rights Reserved.

Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group

TEFL International Supports Dave's ESL Cafe
TEFL Courses, TESOL Course, English Teaching Jobs - TEFL International