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PeroPero



Joined: 09 Jun 2006
Location: Brazil

PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 7:28 pm    Post subject: Brazilian having problems to go Reply with quote

ok, to get things started, let me tell you a little bit about me...
my family is american and we speak english at home, so english is my first language.
BUT, i was born in brazil and chose to be a brazilian citizen when i was a *stupid* kid...yes, i�m a brazilian passport holder. ��
i have a degree and i�ve been teaching english here for the last 4 years...since i�ve always been into asia i�d love to go to korea (or japan!!!) to teach english..well, i REALLY would like to do that. (once working conditions here are not really the best in the world...)

you probably already know the problem:
they just accept people from english speaking countries..(at least they must have a passport from one of those countries...)
and unfortunately my passport is not THAT nice to the korean immigration office..

i called the korean consulate in brazil and they told me i could teach english in korea with an E7 visa...i tried to find information about it here but there�s just one thread related to it (and honestly,it is not the most helpfull one)

i applied to many schools and most of them just replied me with some nasty emails ��
there�s one that seems to be interested in me, though
they said they�d probably have another offer for me and would call me later to explain it..
and then the owner�s aunt just died and she had to drive to another city..so i�m still waiting for her call...anxiously, by the way...
while she�s away, help me.

do you think that i could teach english in korea even if i�m not legally from an english speaking country??

any answer will be deeply appreciated..

thank you all
this board is great! ^^ Rolling Eyes
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 7:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Brazilian having problems to go Reply with quote

PeroPero wrote:
ok, to get things started, let me tell you a little bit about me...
my family is american and we speak english at home, so english is my first language.
BUT, i was born in brazil and chose to be a brazilian citizen when i was a *stupid* kid...yes, i�m a brazilian passport holder. ��
i have a degree and i�ve been teaching english here for the last 4 years...since i�ve always been into asia i�d love to go to korea (or japan!!!) to teach english..well, i REALLY would like to do that. (once working conditions here are not really the best in the world...)

you probably already know the problem:
they just accept people from english speaking countries..(at least they must have a passport from one of those countries...)
and unfortunately my passport is not THAT nice to the korean immigration office..

i called the korean consulate in brazil and they told me i could teach english in korea with an E7 visa...i tried to find information about it here but there�s just one thread related to it (and honestly,it is not the most helpfull one)

i applied to many schools and most of them just replied me with some nasty emails ��
there�s one that seems to be interested in me, though
they said they�d probably have another offer for me and would call me later to explain it..
and then the owner�s aunt just died and she had to drive to another city..so i�m still waiting for her call...anxiously, by the way...
while she�s away, help me.

do you think that i could teach english in korea even if i�m not legally from an english speaking country??

any answer will be deeply appreciated..

thank you all
this board is great! ^^ Rolling Eyes


Long tale made short. You have 2 options.

1) 1) If you family was American (actual citizenship) then, unless you made a formal renunciation you may still retain your American citizenship. Contact the embassy to see about getting your US passport

2) Give up on Korea as a teaching option. The department of education will NOT let you teach with an E7. You CANNOT qualify for an E2 under current immigration rules.

Possibly you could get a job at a company doing English as an internal employee to their staff but those are usually plum jobs and you will face STIFF competition from those who qualify for E2s and are considered by Koreans to be native speakers.
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PeroPero



Joined: 09 Jun 2006
Location: Brazil

PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yack
the problems is,
getting the american citizenship takes ages, specially now, after the september 11th stuff! (and i�d also have to spend lots of money on it)

the consulate here told me i could teach!
it seems like i get different answers to the same question everytime i ask about this!
korean people are really weird
(but i like them anyway u.u)

thanks for replying anyway..

anyone else?
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TexasPete



Joined: 24 May 2006
Location: Koreatown

PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You gave up American Citizenship for Brazilian? Shocked I think you're up poop creek without a paddle trying to get a legal job here. Where did you go to Uni anyway out of curiousity?
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PeroPero



Joined: 09 Jun 2006
Location: Brazil

PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TexasPete wrote:
You gave up American Citizenship for Brazilian? Shocked I think you're up poop creek without a paddle trying to get a legal job here. Where did you go to Uni anyway out of curiousity?


i said i chose the citizenship when i was a kid...i wasnt THAT smart to figure it all out, ok?..
i went to uni here, by the way.
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TexasPete



Joined: 24 May 2006
Location: Koreatown

PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also try not to be too shocked when you get different answers from different people in the government here on the same question. A quick glance of these boards will show you just how confused Korean gov. employees seem to be about the various forms and requirements needed for anything to be done legally here.
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TexasPete



Joined: 24 May 2006
Location: Koreatown

PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PeroPero wrote:
TexasPete wrote:
You gave up American Citizenship for Brazilian? Shocked I think you're up poop creek without a paddle trying to get a legal job here. Where did you go to Uni anyway out of curiousity?


i said i chose the citizenship when i was a kid...i wasnt THAT smart to figure it all out, ok?..
i went to uni here, by the way.

Brazilian Uni? Not helping your case any with that one.

I was under the impression that you couldn't give up or change citizenship status until you were 18. Is Brazil somehow different?
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PeroPero



Joined: 09 Jun 2006
Location: Brazil

PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TexasPete wrote:
Also try not to be too shocked when you get different answers from different people in the government here on the same question. A quick glance of these boards will show you just how confused Korean gov. employees seem to be about the various forms and requirements needed for anything to be done legally here.


yeah, that was the first thing i realized when i started reading through this board threads..0.0
i�m still shocked...korea seems to be so organized when you are out of it..
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PeroPero



Joined: 09 Jun 2006
Location: Brazil

PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TexasPete wrote:
PeroPero wrote:
TexasPete wrote:
You gave up American Citizenship for Brazilian? Shocked I think you're up poop creek without a paddle trying to get a legal job here. Where did you go to Uni anyway out of curiousity?


i said i chose the citizenship when i was a kid...i wasnt THAT smart to figure it all out, ok?..
i went to uni here, by the way.

Brazilian Uni? Not helping your case any with that one.

I was under the impression that you couldn't give up or change citizenship status until you were 18. Is Brazil somehow different?


no, it�s still like that....in theory, of course.
i could change my citizenship status but it would take ages and ages....nothing is working properly on american consulates and embassies after sept 11th..it takes almost 4 months to book an interview to get a tourist visa nowadays..

and they�ve already lost many of my documents concerning this process..(i already tried to change my citizenship status....i just stopped caring about it cause i realized they werent caring about it, either)
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Hotpants



Joined: 27 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 12:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you have any soccer skills? If the Korean team does well again, I'm sure they'll be hiring more instructors for the growing number of soccer academies here. As a Brazilian, bound for World Cup victory again, I'm sure you'll be in with a chance of employment. If it's believed that only native speakers can make the best English teachers, then likewise, I'm sure that the Koreans already have it in mind that only Brazilians can teach soccer!

It's a cruel game about passport holders, but if you're really set on teaching English over here, it may well be your only option to embark on the US passport process however long it takes. Meanwhile, you could get further teaching qualifications and by the time your US passport comes, you could be well placed for a great job here.
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PeroPero



Joined: 09 Jun 2006
Location: Brazil

PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 2:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

unfortunately i�m probably the worst soccer player in the world +_+
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PeroPero



Joined: 09 Jun 2006
Location: Brazil

PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 2:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the owner of the school called me yesterday..
she said i could work on a strange teaching method..it�s like the students call and i teach them by phone...
she also asked if i could go there on �travelling purposes�
so i think she wants me to work there illegaly...
i think i can be there just for 1-3 months..after that period, can i go to japan and then come back for more 1-3 months?
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Juregen



Joined: 30 May 2006

PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 3:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PeroPero wrote:
the owner of the school called me yesterday..
she said i could work on a strange teaching method..it�s like the students call and i teach them by phone...
she also asked if i could go there on �travelling purposes�
so i think she wants me to work there illegaly...
i think i can be there just for 1-3 months..after that period, can i go to japan and then come back for more 1-3 months?


This is definately illegal. They need you to register for a working Visa, not a tourist Visa.

And the workingconditions are pretty bad, sitting behind a desk al day long, talking to people. And they pbbly won't learn a thing.

Trust me, it is not teaching. But if you want to take the risk, why not.
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PeroPero



Joined: 09 Jun 2006
Location: Brazil

PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i�m teaching in a stuff like this..
it�s called cafetalk and it comes from japan...
the students have classes via skype �.�
so far i just had one class.....the student could speak english very well so we were just talking for 50 minutes...
i�m not really sure if i liked that, though +_+

yeah, i know what they want to do is illegal....and i�m not sure how far i�d go with this..
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PaperTiger



Joined: 31 May 2005
Location: Ulaanbataar

PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 5:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dude, don't bother coming to Korea. You should really try some place that is less xenophobic and racist. If you're a dark-skinned Brazillian, forget about it. Just because some place will take you, doesn't mean it will be worth all the hassle to come over here and find out they're the kind of place that should be avoided...there are tons of crooks, fly-by-night schools, and cutthroat school owners who hire newbies for the express purpose of using their inexperience against them.

Try Japan, they have a much more cosmopolitan attitude towards countries of origin (don't they?).
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