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emiliabedilia



Joined: 21 Jun 2006
Location: Phila

PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 6:14 am    Post subject: People Recruit -legit? Reply with quote

I'm considering using this recruitor to get a job in Korea, but there really is no evidence of anyone using them on the internet, no testimonials or even mention on this site or ANYTHING.

I'm female and take my safety pretty seriously. I'd just like to know if anyone has heard of them or used them.

Thanks
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excitinghead



Joined: 18 Jul 2005

PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, I remember posting in a thread about them, unfortunately my computer won't let me copy the link to paste here for some reason. So instead, put my name in "Search for Author" then scroll down and you'll see the People Recruit thread.

In that thread, one guy didn't like them but most of the other posters were pretty positive.

Enjoy!
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

excitinghead wrote:
Hi, I remember posting in a thread about them, unfortunately my computer won't let me copy the link to paste here for some reason. So instead, put my name in "Search for Author" then scroll down and you'll see the People Recruit thread.

In that thread, one guy didn't like them but most of the other posters were pretty positive.

Enjoy!


Actually in that thread, three people didn't like them. I was one of them. Like I said, I'd stay well clear of them. They usually recruit for hakwons that have a problem retaining teachers. A newbie might think it is a good deal, but if you have experience you can usually do much better.
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excitinghead



Joined: 18 Jul 2005

PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Actually in that thread, three people didn't like them. I was one of them. Like I said, I'd stay well clear of them. They usually recruit for hakwons that have a problem retaining teachers. A newbie might think it is a good deal, but if you have experience you can usually do much better"

Well, if we're picking straws, a closer look shows that in any thread about People Recruit out of the people who have actually used them everyone except you and natemk absolutely loves them! In addition, there's only 2(!) small threads about them as far as I know, and as we all know, the less said about a recruiter on eslcafe usually means the better...unfortunately teachers with good experiences with recruiters are usually too busy having a good time to bother with eslcafe again.

I'm sorry that you had a bad experience with them, but that doesn't mean "they usually recruit for hakwons that have a problem retaining teachers". How would you know? Did you hack into their computer and download their evil master plan?
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

excitinghead wrote:
"Actually in that thread, three people didn't like them. I was one of them. Like I said, I'd stay well clear of them. They usually recruit for hakwons that have a problem retaining teachers. A newbie might think it is a good deal, but if you have experience you can usually do much better"

(1) Well, if we're picking straws, a closer look shows that in any thread about People Recruit out of the people who have actually used them everyone except you and natemk absolutely loves them! In addition, there's only 2(!) small threads about them as far as I know, and as we all know, the less said about a recruiter on eslcafe usually means the better...unfortunately teachers with good experiences with recruiters are usually too busy having a good time to bother with eslcafe again.

(2) I'm sorry that you had a bad experience with them, but that doesn't mean "they usually recruit for hakwons that have a problem retaining teachers". How would you know? Did you hack into their computer and download their evil master plan?



1. And sheba. That makes three. As for the people who used them and loved them that's only TWO. That's not everybody.


2. No, but I did use them for a while. Every hakwon they took me to, (7 in total) required (1) shared housing (2) working on some Saturdays (3) phone teaching. (4) no pension enrollment. Same thing happened to a friend of mine.

I finally dropped them and went with another recruiter.
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blizzard_jdf



Joined: 28 Nov 2005

PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used People Recruit at the end of last year. They are helpful and informative. They do communicate. Howvever they are EXTREMELY PUSHY. They really do get on your nerves after a while.

To cut a long story short I found my school through them. Little did People Recruuit know that the school had 3 runaway teachers in 1 year. When things got tough they did try and negotiate with my school. With jobs here it just seems to be random luck, so I don't know. PM me if you want to know more.

Best advice I can give is to ask for the emails of THREE teachers who have FINISHED their contracts. Not justa current teacher.
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SeoulMan6



Joined: 27 Jul 2005
Location: Gangwon-do

PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used People Recruit a couple of years ago. Wonny and Heyya are still there I think. They were helpful and nice. I'd use them again.
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excitinghead



Joined: 18 Jul 2005

PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm having a bad time with the search function today...in the end I just typed "peoplerecruit" in and got 6 or 7 threads or so. Think there's a few more out there somewhere, but I give up. In the meantime, let's see what that third person (sheba) said that we were talking about:

"I looked into People Recruit as well, unfortunately they replied saying they basically only place Americans... the said theyd contact me if anything came up that was available, but I never did hear from them again"

...and then, when it turns out that only placing Americans was a miscommunication...

"They lied about only scouting Americans. Wow, they sound great!"

Sounds like a grand total of two emails, one to PR and one back, and that's it. Hardly counts as not liking them, let alone being placed in a bad school by them. Turns out most 'negative' comments about them in other threads are usually no more than "I called, I didn't hear back", which doesn't really say anything bad, or good, or anything about them at all really.

I just find threads about peoplerecruit bemusing, I've been following them since I noticed someone raving about them and couldn't understand how those same people would get painted as such fiends by others. So I don't take anyone's word for it without more details...for instance, I still can't figure out in one of the other threads how peoplerecruit calling to help natemk when he had problems with his hagwan, somehow made them worse(!??), and this case, UrbanMyth, what do you mean exactly by

"Every hakwon they took me to, (7 in total) required (1) shared housing (2) working on some Saturdays (3) phone teaching. (4) no pension enrollment"

...did they drive you to the hagwons? Or do you really mean they just sent you the details of the jobs? If the latter, it doesn't really sound too onerous to me. And any recruitors, not just in ESL, that don't listen to my conditions and send me crappy jobs get ignored or hung-up on after the 3rd time. Why didn't you?

So, I still can't see how you can say "They usually recruit for hakwons that have a problem retaining teachers". What do you base that on? Were ALL 7 hagwans they told about you about blacklisted or something? That's quite an acheivement for a recruiter, even if they were the worst in Korea! Laughing

I recommend people read Atkinson 's posts on peoplerecruit, they seem pretty balanced, and he has some good advice about recruiters in general.
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TheUrbanMyth



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

excitinghead wrote:
I'm having a bad time with the search function today...in the end I just typed "peoplerecruit" in and got 6 or 7 threads or so. Think there's a few more out there somewhere, but I give up. In the meantime, let's see what that third person (sheba) said that we were talking about:

"I looked into People Recruit as well, unfortunately they replied saying they basically only place Americans... the said theyd contact me if anything came up that was available, but I never did hear from them again"

...and then, when it turns out that only placing Americans was a miscommunication...

"They lied about only scouting Americans. Wow, they sound great!"

(1) Sounds like a grand total of two emails, one to PR and one back, and that's it. Hardly counts as not liking them, let alone being placed in a bad school by them. Turns out most 'negative' comments about them in other threads are usually no more than "I called, I didn't hear back", which doesn't really say anything bad, or good, or anything about them at all really.

(2) I just find threads about peoplerecruit bemusing, I've been following them since I noticed someone raving about them and couldn't understand how those same people would get painted as such fiends by others. So I don't take anyone's word for it without more details...for instance, I still can't figure out in one of the other threads how peoplerecruit calling to help natemk when he had problems with his hagwan, somehow made them worse(!??), and this case, UrbanMyth, what do you mean exactly by

"Every hakwon they took me to, (7 in total) required (1) shared housing (2) working on some Saturdays (3) phone teaching. (4) no pension enrollment"

(3) ...did they drive you to the hagwons? Or do you really mean they just sent you the details of the jobs? If the latter, it doesn't really sound too onerous to me. And any recruitors, not just in ESL, that don't listen to my conditions and send me crappy jobs get ignored or hung-up on after the 3rd time. Why didn't you?

So, I still can't see how you can say "They usually recruit for hakwons that have a problem retaining teachers". What do you base that on? Were ALL 7 hagwans they told about you about blacklisted or something? That's quite an acheivement for a recruiter, even if they were the worst in Korea! Laughing

I recommend people read Atkinson 's posts on peoplerecruit, they seem pretty balanced, and he has some good advice about recruiters in general.


(numbers are mine)

1. Well in a earlier post you claimed that "..out of the people who have actually used them everyone except you and natemk absolutely loves them!" I was simply pointing out in that thread that only two people recommended them which is a far cry from everybody loving them. And recruiters have been known to post on these boards posing as teachers (at least in the early days of these forums)


2. Different people have different tolerances. A newbie who gets a crappy contract and who has massive student loans might not know any better. Whereas somebody who's 'been around the block' so as to speak would turn down any such offer.


3. They drove me to each and every one. As to why I didn't refuse them the 3rd time or so...I am a fairly patient person. Plus initially they seemed so nice at first. It's hard to get angry at someone who you think is trying to help you to the point of coming to your apartment, picking you up and driving you (in one case 45 minutes) to a potential job offer. Three of those hakwons were blacklisted. The other four had a grand total of 12 runners in 1 year....I was able to find this out because all four had deposit charges in their contract. When I asked about this, after a lot of hemming and hawing all four admitted to having teachers leaving early hence the deposit charges.

Anyway one or two or even three bad hakwons could be construed as chance. But seven? And it wasn't just me, my friend AND Mr natemk (both of whom actually were recruited by these people) had bad experiences.


Bottom line a recruiter works for the school not you. If you leave in some cases the recruiter doesn't get his/her fee. That comes first and the welfare of the teacher is a very distant second. Anybody who thinks otherwise is naive. Sure some are nice and check up on you from time to time...but if they weren't making any money off you, do you think they would care? They don't know you from Adam.
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