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Best way to go about asking for a raise?

 
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Kiddirts



Joined: 25 Jul 2003

PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 6:48 am    Post subject: Best way to go about asking for a raise? Reply with quote

Okay, so here's the deal, I've got these two hagwons I work for, both Korean ladies like me and I've been there for 2 years now. They are part-time block shifts about 3-5 hours a day...actually the one on Mon-Wed has some breaks, a half hour here, hour there and they both pay 35,000/hr without a recruiter, but going directly through them. I feel I'm a decent teacher but more so, I am extremely responsible and punctual...in the two years (well, 1.5 years, just came off a 6 month vacation) I have never missed a class and have not been a minute late...both ladies had bad luck with foreign teachers in this regard and are thrilled to be working with me. I have a couple of friends who landed jobs at 40hr BLOCKED SHIFT...and was thinking about asking for a raise, one lady was actually supposed to give me 40hr (Thursday and Friday lady at second hagwon) if I indeed came back, but changed it like a week before I returned because she said that some kids had dropped during my time away. Okay, so any suggestions on going about asking for 40hr block shift? I am asking for too much money? Am I being unreasonable to expect more when recruiters on Worknplay, englishspectrum, etc...give 30hr (do you think they charge the hagwons 40hr or 35hr?) The classes aren't too big usually only 3-5 kids. I'm a North American with a degree if that means anything...let me know what you think...thanks!
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sadsac



Joined: 22 Dec 2003
Location: Gwangwang

PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rather than ask for a direct increase, negotiate a bi-annual bonus. This may be far more pallitable for your owners. Your choice though. If you feel that they would pay 40, then ask for it. Smile
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jellobean



Joined: 14 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The question is, can you get a block shift paying 40 somewhere else? Would you be willing to work somewhere else? If so, then you can bargain and move on if they say no.
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SeniorEnglish



Joined: 18 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 8:32 pm    Post subject: What is a raise? Reply with quote

I have never heard of anyone getting a raise. I was with a school for 2 years, they paid me more on my next contract, but I didn't consider it a raise. When I asked for a raise. They said " You cannot change your contract." And then proceeded trying to make me the interview teacher.
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rothkowitz



Joined: 27 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Best way?Walk out the door.
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John Henry



Joined: 24 Sep 2004

PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 8:50 pm    Post subject: Re: What is a raise? Reply with quote

SeniorEnglish wrote:
I have never heard of anyone getting a raise. I was with a school for 2 years, they paid me more on my next contract, but I didn't consider it a raise. When I asked for a raise. They said " You cannot change your contract." And then proceeded trying to make me the interview teacher.


Was that school in Ulsan, by any chance?
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Homer
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I was with a school for 2 years, they paid me more on my next contract


Sorry but isn't that the very definition of a raise?

Getting paid more? Laughing

They paid you more but you did not consider it raise...what was it then a gift? A bonus? A sacrifice of respect to your superior being status? Laughing

As for getting raises...its about leverage and negociation.

If you have credentials and qualifications and referenced experience you have leverage. I have gotten raises in each job since my 2nd year here.

If you sit on your butt and hit cruise control then why would you get a raise, except perhaps the auto-raise that is usually offered for re-signing with the school?

A raise is not a due just because of time in a school..it is partially (mostly?) dependent on the quality of your work and on your level of commitment to the job...
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