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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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 Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 7:46 am Post subject: English teacher's rights |
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| I was told to go to some staff development thing on a Saturday in Seoul. Inside, I am kind of fuming, because it is my weekend, and so far unlike my counterparts at other Hagwons I've had few holidays and one of my co-workers said we are going to be working on constitutional day, which is a national day. I kind of don't like that. Any advice? |
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Qinella
Joined: 25 Feb 2005
Location: the crib
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| Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 9:08 am Post subject: |
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The training could, and hopefully will, help you improve as a teacher. It's not completely unheard of for people to do a little career development on their own time.
Working on a public holiday? I would incite all the students to complain. It worked last time. |
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Canucksaram
Joined: 29 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 10:20 am Post subject: Be yourself; be strong. |
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| I was told to go to some staff development thing on a Saturday in Seoul. Inside, I am kind of fuming, because it is my weekend, and so far unlike my counterparts at other Hagwons I've had few holidays and one of my co-workers said we are going to be working on constitutional day, which is a national day. I kind of don't like that. Any advice? |
Well, where to begin?
Perhaps learning how to use the possessive "s" is a good starting place.
And maybe then you could tackle capitalization. And then commas.
Furthermore, you could perhaps work on your own sense of self. "Kind of" not liking something is a bit too wishy-washy, don't you think?
Are you not your own person? Why gripe about things on the Internet, instead of putting your foot down and refusing to be (from what seems to be your perspective) mistreated?
What is the strength of your convictions? |
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laogaiguk
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea
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| Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 1:41 pm Post subject: Re: Be yourself; be strong. |
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| I was told to go to some staff development thing on a Saturday in Seoul. Inside, I am kind of fuming, because it is my weekend, and so far unlike my counterparts at other Hagwons I've had few holidays and one of my co-workers said we are going to be working on constitutional day, which is a national day. I kind of don't like that. Any advice? |
Well, where to begin?
Perhaps learning how to use the possessive "s" is a good starting place.
And maybe then you could tackle capitalization. And then commas.
Furthermore, you could perhaps work on your own sense of self. "Kind of" not liking something is a bit too wishy-washy, don't you think?
Are you not your own person? Why gripe about things on the Internet, instead of putting your foot down and refusing to be (from what seems to be your perspective) mistreated?
What is the strength of your convictions? |
Spelling/grammar nazis are lowlife scum, and not very helpful in most cases, such as this one. |
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Grotto
Joined: 21 Mar 2004
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| Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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| I was told to go to some staff development thing on a Saturday in Seoul. Inside, I am kind of fuming, because it is my weekend, and so far unlike my counterparts at other Hagwons I've had few holidays and one of my co-workers said we are going to be working on constitutional day, which is a national day. I kind of don't like that. Any advice? |
1. What does your contract say?
2. Are they paying you to attend it?
3. Are they supplying transportation to and from?
4. Why on earth are you working a stat? (what does your contract say?)
tell them you wont be going to the staff development thing on Saturday and that you wont be working on a stat.....you're entitled to it off so take it! |
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Qinella
Joined: 25 Feb 2005
Location: the crib
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| Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 1:58 pm Post subject: Re: Be yourself; be strong. |
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| I was told to go to some staff development thing on a Saturday in Seoul. Inside, I am kind of fuming, because it is my weekend, and so far unlike my counterparts at other Hagwons I've had few holidays and one of my co-workers said we are going to be working on constitutional day, which is a national day. I kind of don't like that. Any advice? |
Well, where to begin?
Perhaps learning how to use the possessive "s" is a good starting place.
And maybe then you could tackle capitalization. And then commas.
Furthermore, you could perhaps work on your own sense of self. "Kind of" not liking something is a bit too wishy-washy, don't you think?
Are you not your own person? Why gripe about things on the Internet, instead of putting your foot down and refusing to be (from what seems to be your perspective) mistreated?
What is the strength of your convictions? |
I can count two grammatical errors in your post. Additionally, the parenthetical usage is questionable since the information inside is presumably meant to be highlighted as key rather than simply noted as tangential. Let's make it three errors, then.
Meanwhile, the OP's possessive usage was not incorrect, grammatically speaking. One, perhaps two capitlization errors exist. There was one instance were a clause should've been separated by commas. That makes it a grand total of ~2 errors.
As we can see, the OP contains fewer errors than your own execrative dropping, which makes your post about as witty and clever as your user name. Canucksaram. har har har. I think I get it!
The point is: you are a douche bag. If you're going to criticize someone for the minutiae of their grammar, at least be sure to guard your own usage.
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 2:08 pm Post subject: Re: Be yourself; be strong. |
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| I was told to go to some staff development thing on a Saturday in Seoul. Inside, I am kind of fuming, because it is my weekend, and so far unlike my counterparts at other Hagwons I've had few holidays and one of my co-workers said we are going to be working on constitutional day, which is a national day. I kind of don't like that. Any advice? |
Well, where to begin?
Perhaps learning how to use the possessive "s" is a good starting place.
And maybe then you could tackle capitalization. And then commas.
Furthermore, you could perhaps work on your own sense of self. "Kind of" not liking something is a bit too wishy-washy, don't you think?
Are you not your own person? Why gripe about things on the Internet, instead of putting your foot down and refusing to be (from what seems to be your perspective) mistreated?
What is the strength of your convictions? |
I was inebriated when I wrote the post. Man, you are some nerd. I know how to use the possessive and I know capitalization rules, so excuse me Mr. Flaubert. I am generally thorough when I write something, but I wasn't in that frame of mind. |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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| I was told to go to some staff development thing on a Saturday in Seoul. Inside, I am kind of fuming, because it is my weekend, and so far unlike my counterparts at other Hagwons I've had few holidays and one of my co-workers said we are going to be working on constitutional day, which is a national day. I kind of don't like that. Any advice? |
1. What does your contract say?
2. Are they paying you to attend it?
3. Are they supplying transportation to and from?
4. Why on earth are you working a stat? (what does your contract say?)
tell them you wont be going to the staff development thing on Saturday and that you wont be working on a stat.....you're entitled to it off so take it! |
Well, I am going, but I am going to speak to her about this. It is one thing, if I was getting my holidays such as Constitutional Day. At any rate, the last holiday I had was on Buddha's birthday. My friends at the other hagwons have had more days off. I looked at my contract, and it did not speak about national holidays. I could forward you a copy. It says I should get paid 18,000 per hour if I go over my
thirty hours. But it also is vague and says I could go to unpaid workshops. So I am not clear on that. It also says I get 10 paid vacation days during my contract's duration. A friend who worked there before said he got days off during the end of terms. However, I am not holding my breath. I am going to ask about getting some kind of compensation if I have to work on Saturday. Anyway, I am not looking to rock the boat, but I don't want to be taken advantage of by my boss.
How is my grammar when I am sober, fellows? |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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I looked at my contract again. It says I am supposed to have all national holidays off and also Saturdays and Sundays. I am going to ask my boss to pay me for my time if I am to work days I am not required to work. Sorry, for beating this to death. I am sure you guys understand.
7. VACATION TIME:
The teacher shall enjoy 10 days of paid vacation (in addition to all Korean
national holidays and Saturdays and Sundays). The paid vacation will be normally 5 days for Summer and 5 days for winter. But the schedule can be changed by school�s schedule. Documented sick leave and emergency leave will be paid for a combined total of 3 working days a year. The teacher should provide the institute with as much advance notice as possible. The teacher should submit doctor�s prescription to the school for approving sick leaves. Unused sick leave may not be converted into any cash payment. If it is found that the hours/days of absence reported as sick leave or emergency leave were not in fact for such purposes, related costs shall be subtracted from the following months pay. The above leaves will be included in the period of medical care compensation according to the Article 78 of Korean Labor Standard Law. |
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SuperHero
Joined: 10 Dec 2003
Location: Superhero Hideout
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| Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 2:57 pm Post subject: Re: Be yourself; be strong. |
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| I was told to go to some staff development thing on a Saturday in Seoul. Inside, I am kind of fuming, because it is my weekend, and so far unlike my counterparts at other Hagwons I've had few holidays and one of my co-workers said we are going to be working on constitutional day, which is a national day. I kind of don't like that. Any advice? |
Well, where to begin?
Perhaps learning how to use the possessive "s" is a good starting place.
And maybe then you could tackle capitalization. And then commas. |
Its alredy been said on this thread butt grammer nazis suk. |
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OiGirl
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: Hoke-y-gun
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| Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 5:51 pm Post subject: Re: Be yourself; be strong. |
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| I was told to go to some staff development thing on a Saturday in Seoul. Inside, I am kind of fuming, because it is my weekend, and so far unlike my counterparts at other Hagwons I've had few holidays and one of my co-workers said we are going to be working on constitutional day, which is a national day. I kind of don't like that. Any advice? |
Well, where to begin?
Perhaps learning how to use the possessive "s" is a good starting place.
And maybe then you could tackle capitalization. And then commas.
Furthermore, you could perhaps work on your own sense of self. "Kind of" not liking something is a bit too wishy-washy, don't you think?
Are you not your own person? Why gripe about things on the Internet, instead of putting your foot down and refusing to be (from what seems to be your perspective) mistreated?
What is the strength of your convictions? |
Spelling/grammar nazis are lowlife scum, and not very helpful in most cases, such as this one. |
But maybe the "staff development thing" will include lessons in spelling and grammar. |
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Grotto
Joined: 21 Mar 2004
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| Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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| But maybe the "staff development thing" will include lessons in spelling and grammar. |
 maybe it involves prostitutes   |
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OiGirl
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: Hoke-y-gun
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| Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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| But maybe the "staff development thing" will include lessons in spelling and grammar. |
maybe it involves prostitutes |
Ooooh! Well, we'll never know unless we give up some of our free time and take a chance and go to it... |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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I looked at my contract again. It says I am supposed to have all national holidays off and also Saturdays and Sundays. I am going to ask my boss to pay me for my time if I am to work days I am not required to work. Sorry, for beating this to death. I am sure you guys understand.
7. VACATION TIME:
The teacher shall enjoy 10 days of paid vacation (in addition to all Korean
national holidays and Saturdays and Sundays). The paid vacation will be normally 5 days for Summer and 5 days for winter. But the schedule can be changed by school�s schedule. Documented sick leave and emergency leave will be paid for a combined total of 3 working days a year. The teacher should provide the institute with as much advance notice as possible. The teacher should submit doctor�s prescription to the school for approving sick leaves. Unused sick leave may not be converted into any cash payment. If it is found that the hours/days of absence reported as sick leave or emergency leave were not in fact for such purposes, related costs shall be subtracted from the following months pay. The above leaves will be included in the period of medical care compensation according to the Article 78 of Korean Labor Standard Law. |
Put your foot down. The contract clearly states that you will have all Saturdays off. If you do go though, at least get paid for it...or it is likely to happen again and again and again....
Seems like they are testing you to see what they can get away with.
Mr. Qinella wrote "The training could, and hopefully will, help you improve as a teacher. It's not completely unheard of for people to do a little career development on their own time"
Good point, but while that might be true back home, "training" in Korea often means going to some place and listening to some guy talk in Korean for a couple of hours. Such training is generally not helpful and since it is only lasting for part of ONE day I doubt if it will have any lasting attempt. Furthermore you are assuming that teaching is Mr. Adventurer's "career" when it may not be. In which case such training would not be worth much if anything at all.
Generally when people do a "little career development on their own time" it involves more time than one Saturday. But it should be the OP's choice. |
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