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Gideon

Joined: 24 Feb 2004 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 5:28 am Post subject: UNI CONTRACT.. WHAT THE?? |
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I don't know about you guys and gals but this uni job offer seems way off.. i dont think its worth the bother of posting.. But i might be wrong. Any comments??
Instructor of Freshman English Program: Kyungpook National University, Daegu, Korea
Posted By: Kyungpook National University <[email protected]>
Date: Monday, 3 July 2006, at 2:04 a.m.
Kyungpook National University (KNU), located in Daegu, the third largest city in Korea, is hiring a Full-Time Instructor of English. The beginning date is August 26, 2006. A few positions are available across the following two programs. Please indicate which program you are applying to.
The Freshman English Program (University Credit Courses)
JOB DESCRIPTION:
1. This program aims to improve students' English skills as part of the university's Freshman English Courses. The classes consist of beginner and intermediate levels, and students earn credits from these courses.
2. Salary 1.9 - 2.1 million Korean Won per month (commensurate with qualifications and experience).
3. Vacation: Guaranteed minimum of 6 weeks paid vacation (usually 8-10 weeks paid vacation).
4. Teach the following semesters and sessions:
Spring and Fall Semesters
- Duration: 16 - 17 weeks
- Contract Hours: Fourteen 75-minute lessons per week (up to 84 hours per month) - Class Hours: Between 9 am & 6 pm, Monday - Friday
- Class Size: Maximum of 23 students per class
- Other Duties: Attendance records, homework, testing & grading
Summer and Winter Sessions
- Duration: 4 - 6 weeks
- Contract Hours: Sixteen 75-minute lessons per week (up to 90 hours per month)
- Class Hours: Between 9 am & 6 pm, Monday -Friday
- Class Size: 11 -16 students per class
- Other Duties: Intensive Program, Credit Course - Same as Spring / Fall
English Conversation Program (Non-Credit Based Courses)
JOB DESCRIPTION:
1. This program provides English conversation classes for students who are highly motivated to take extra English conversation classes beyond the university's required credit courses.
2. Salary 2.1 to 2.3 million Korean Won a month.
3. A 7-week session (for 2 months as a unit) is run, totaling at 6 sessions a year.
4. An average twenty-one 50-minute lessons per week (4 weeks of teaching in the first month of the session; 3 weeks of teaching in the second month).
5. A minimum 4-week paid vacation (About 7 days following the closing of
each session is allocated as a session break; usually, vacation is thus
estimated to be about 6 weeks a year).
6. Teaching time: 06:40-09:40 a.m. and 17:00-20:00 p.m. from Monday to Friday.
7. Class size: 8 � 15 students.
BENEFITS:
Across the two programs the following benefits are given:
1. Severance: One month's salary upon successful completion of contract.
2. Medical & Dental insurance.
3. Free Housing: Furnished one-room apartment on or off campus which includes the following: 1) air-conditioner; 2) color television; 3) VCR; 4) refrigerator; 5) double bed; 6) desk w/chair; 7) small dining table w/2 chairs; wardrobe closet; 9) telephone; 10) internet-access (university LAN) outlet; 11) washing machine; and 12) dual hot-plate.
4. Classrooms: TV/VCR units; audio-cassette players; heaters & A/C units.
5. Airfare: NO AIRFARE PROVIDED. Applicants are responsible for work visa costs. SHAME ON YOU!!!
QUALIFICATIONS:
1. Native speaker of English.
2. MA TESOL, M.Ed. preferred. BA in relevant field (ELT) with TEFL/TESOL Certificate considered.
3. Previous EFL teaching experience (experience in Korea preferred). The deadline for applications is July 22, 2006. Decisions regarding hiring will be made as soon as possible. If interested, please submit the following (Please mention where you saw this ad):
1. Resume with a cover letter and a photo (3.5 x 4.5 cm)
2. Copy of your passport information page with photo
3. Copies of all degrees & transcripts
4. Three letters of recommendation (personal and/or professional) |
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RobinH

Joined: 18 Feb 2006 Location: Mid-bulk transport, standard radeon accelerator core, class code 03-K64--Firefly.
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Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 5:59 am Post subject: |
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National (read:government) unis typically offer crappier contracts. This is average.
If Dr. Andrew Finch is still teaching there it would be a good place for a new or experienced teacher to learn project-based teaching. Otherwise, go with the private schools. |
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tzechuk

Joined: 20 Dec 2004
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Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 6:03 am Post subject: |
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Dr. Andrew Finch is still there. He has just been made tenured. First for a foreigner at Kyungpook. His wife has now graduated with a PhD and is teaching, too. |
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Gideon

Joined: 24 Feb 2004 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 6:14 am Post subject: |
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Offering no airfare is standard with national universities? I didnt know that.. Ironic how a government educational institution would not offer paid airfare for english teachers.. Oh well.. Good luck to them!  |
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kimchikowboy

Joined: 24 Jan 2003
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Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 6:16 am Post subject: |
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Dr. Andrew Finch is still there. He has just been made tenured. |
Real Reality often posts a link about it being illegal to give foreign professors tenure at national universities. Are you sure about this? |
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tzechuk

Joined: 20 Dec 2004
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Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 6:17 am Post subject: |
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That may be their subtle way of saying that they will only hire people who are already in Korea, preferrably an F-2 holder?
Friend works here in Daejeon at Chungnam University, also a national uni... and he says that his pay is no better than a hagwon and he has to do a lot of overtime with crap schedules...
So yeah... working at a university isn't always that sweet a deal. |
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tzechuk

Joined: 20 Dec 2004
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Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 6:19 am Post subject: |
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kimchikowboy wrote: |
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Dr. Andrew Finch is still there. He has just been made tenured. |
Real Reality often posts a link about it being illegal to give foreign professors tenure at national universities. Are you sure about this? |
I know Andy personally, so yes, I am sure about this.
I didn't know that it was illegal to give foreign profs tenure positions at national unis... may be the law has changed? Afterall, he IS married to a Korean lady and has (I assume) a resident visa. |
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RobinH

Joined: 18 Feb 2006 Location: Mid-bulk transport, standard radeon accelerator core, class code 03-K64--Firefly.
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Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 6:23 am Post subject: |
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That may be their subtle way of saying that they will only hire people who are already in Korea, preferrably an F-2 holder? |
Nah, just cheap a$$es. The English programs almost always get shafted. Because they usually aren't part of a department, but just a language center, they don't have Korean faculty members fighting for them to get funding. Most see English as a necessary evil, unimportant to the workings of the uni. They'd rather not be bothered and treat the English program accordingly. |
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poker player

Joined: 27 Sep 2004 Location: On the river
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Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 6:23 am Post subject: |
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The pay is low. My private uni pays 2.5 for 10- 90 minute classes per week and 1 day off per week. The winter/summer programs are excessive. Ours are 3 weeks 3 hours per day and usually we only have to do 1 or the other not both. Class size is good. Benefits are standard. Non payment of airfare(most instructors are already in Korea) and visa runs is the case at my uni. The degrees req'd are pretty hefty for that pay. The MA is preferred at my uni but not everyone has one. My uni looks for minimum 3 years experience. Our vacation period works out to about 12 weeks total. We teach 16 weeks but 2 of those are exam weeks so really only 14. You should also get an office.
I wouldn't consider the non credit even though it pays more cuz the hours look bad. |
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RobinH

Joined: 18 Feb 2006 Location: Mid-bulk transport, standard radeon accelerator core, class code 03-K64--Firefly.
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Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 6:26 am Post subject: |
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poker, Is yours a national or private uni? |
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poker player

Joined: 27 Sep 2004 Location: On the river
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Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 6:34 am Post subject: |
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RobinH wrote: |
poker, Is yours a national or private uni? |
private |
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RobinH

Joined: 18 Feb 2006 Location: Mid-bulk transport, standard radeon accelerator core, class code 03-K64--Firefly.
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Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 6:37 am Post subject: |
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Ah, that makes all the difference, doesn't it? |
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Grotto

Joined: 21 Mar 2004
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Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 7:00 am Post subject: |
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JOB DESCRIPTION:
1. This program aims to improve students' English skills as part of the university's Freshman English Courses. The classes consist of beginner and intermediate levels, and students earn credits from these courses.
2. Salary 1.9 - 2.1 million Korean Won per month (commensurate with qualifications and experience).
3. Vacation: Guaranteed minimum of 6 weeks paid vacation (usually 8-10 weeks paid vacation).
4. Teach the following semesters and sessions:
Spring and Fall Semesters
- Duration: 16 - 17 weeks
- Contract Hours: Fourteen 75-minute lessons per week (up to 84 hours per month) - Class Hours: Between 9 am & 6 pm, Monday - Friday
3 75 minute classes a day....seems a bit heavy timewise for a uni job. I would also hope that you are not expected to be there 9 hours a day!
- Class Size: Maximum of 23 students per class
- Other Duties: Attendance records, homework, testing & grading
Summer and Winter Sessions
- Duration: 4 - 6 weeks
- Contract Hours: Sixteen 75-minute lessons per week (up to 90 hours per month)
- Class Hours: Between 9 am & 6 pm, Monday -Friday
- Class Size: 11 -16 students per class
- Other Duties: Intensive Program, Credit Course - Same as Spring / Fall
So do you get any extra pay for these extra classes?
English Conversation Program (Non-Credit Based Courses)
JOB DESCRIPTION:
1. This program provides English conversation classes for students who are highly motivated to take extra English conversation classes beyond the university's required credit courses.
2. Salary 2.1 to 2.3 million Korean Won a month.
3. A 7-week session (for 2 months as a unit) is run, totaling at 6 sessions a year.
4. An average twenty-one 50-minute lessons per week (4 weeks of teaching in the first month of the session; 3 weeks of teaching in the second month).
5. A minimum 4-week paid vacation (About 7 days following the closing of
each session is allocated as a session break; usually, vacation is thus
estimated to be about 6 weeks a year).
6. Teaching time: 06:40-09:40 a.m. and 17:00-20:00 p.m. from Monday to Friday.
ooh goody split shifts
7. Class size: 8 � 15 students.
BENEFITS:
Across the two programs the following benefits are given:
1. Severance: One month's salary upon successful completion of contract.
2. Medical & Dental insurance.
3. Free Housing: Furnished one-room apartment on or off campus which includes the following: 1) air-conditioner; 2) color television; 3) VCR; 4) refrigerator; 5) double bed; 6) desk w/chair; 7) small dining table w/2 chairs; wardrobe closet; 9) telephone; 10) internet-access (university LAN) outlet; 11) washing machine; and 12) dual hot-plate.
4. Classrooms: TV/VCR units; audio-cassette players; heaters & A/C units.
5. Airfare: NO AIRFARE PROVIDED. Applicants are responsible for work visa costs. SHAME ON YOU!!!
yup thats crap!
QUALIFICATIONS:
1. Native speaker of English.
2. MA TESOL, M.Ed. preferred. BA in relevant field (ELT) with TEFL/TESOL Certificate considered.
3. Previous EFL teaching experience (experience in Korea preferred). The deadline for applications is July 22, 2006. Decisions regarding hiring will be made as soon as possible. If interested, please submit the following (Please mention where you saw this ad):
1. Resume with a cover letter and a photo (3.5 x 4.5 cm)
2. Copy of your passport information page with photo
3. Copies of all degrees & transcripts
4. Three letters of recommendation (personal and/or professional)
at least you get decent vacation time with these jobs! |
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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 7:23 am Post subject: |
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tzechuk wrote: |
kimchikowboy wrote: |
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Dr. Andrew Finch is still there. He has just been made tenured. |
Real Reality often posts a link about it being illegal to give foreign professors tenure at national universities. Are you sure about this? |
I know Andy personally, so yes, I am sure about this.
I didn't know that it was illegal to give foreign profs tenure positions at national unis... may be the law has changed? Afterall, he IS married to a Korean lady and has (I assume) a resident visa. |
The rule is still on the immigration website. Read the excerpt from the immigration website. Consider these questions: Is a foreigner permitted to be a full-time professor at a national university? If a foreigner is working as a full-time professor at a national university, is he or she working under the E-1 visa regulation? Is he working legally or illegally? Is someone relying on an F-2 visa (marriage) for a job? Is someone ignoring the regulations? Is someone doing somone else a favor?
Visa Issuance Procedure
E-1 Status (Professors)
A. The Object of Visa Issuance
This category applies to foreigners who, as qualified individuals specified by the Educational Law, wish to instruct special fields of study or engage in the guidance of research at junior colleges or higher educational institutions, or the institutions corresponding to such levels.
* In the case of a national or a public University, a foreigner is not permitted to be a full-time professor.
Immigration Bureau, Ministry of Justice, Republic of Korea
http://www.moj.go.kr/HP/ENG/eng_03/eng_306030.jsp
Foreign scholars merit equal status
The foreign professor -- colleague or hired hand?
Foreign professors do most of the heavy lifting in terms of course loads, devoting themselves almost exclusively to teaching. Nevertheless, they tend to be treated as hired hands, without academic standing, and lacking the possibility of career advancement or tenure. They must submit to yearly contracts (compensated at a rate only 60 percent of their Korean peers) while walled off from the permanent Korean faculty who benefit from travel, research funding, sabbaticals, etc.
John B. Kotch, JoongAng Ilbo (June 14, 2002)
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/200206/14/200206142349223599900090109011.html
Foreigners Experience Difficulties in Living in Korea
by Jae-Dong Yu and Soo-Jung Shin, Donga.com (July 4, 2004)
http://english.donga.com/srv/service.php3?biid=2004070522448
Corrupt professors common, students say
by Baek Il-hyun and Kim Ho-jeong, JoongAng Daily (April 28, 2005)
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/200504/27/200504272214239309900090409041.html
Poll: Money key to teaching posts
Nearly one in five said colleges refused to offer them a position if they did not make a donation to the school foundation or development fund.... The majority of the 166 respondents who were asked to make donations said they were pushed to pay from 50 million won ($42,000) to 100 million won. About 40 said that they were asked to pay more than 100 million won; five said the school demanded 200 million won.... Almost two-thirds said the recruitment process centered on regional or school connections.
by Bae Young-dae, JoongAng Daily (July 9, 2002)
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/200207/09/200207090054252629900090409041.html
A Country of Liars
by Kim Dae-joong, Chosun Ilbo (July 3, 2005)
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200507/200507030027.html |
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PRagic

Joined: 24 Feb 2006
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Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 7:30 am Post subject: |
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Think this place made the 'worst of the worst university jobs' on my old thread. Absolute crap job - way too many contact hours, trimmed down paid vacations, and a lot of other mystery hours lumped in there. If this is a UNIGWON, then so be it. However, if this is a departmental job, they have to be kidding. Oh, and they prefer people with MAs. That's a good one. |
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