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[otis]

Believe it or not, I'm no intellectual. I know that's hard to swallow.

But while I was driving to some craphole dock along the Gulf Coast of Alabama, I was thinking about Albert Camus and his last (at least I think it was his last) work The Rebel.

Man, what an essay. I'm such a bonehead that no book has really ever changed me as a person. If one book came close, it was probably this one.

What he does is this: He writes a historical perspective on Rebellion--going all the way back to Spartacus and working his way up through history.

Then he makes a distinction between a Rebel and a Revolutionary. A Rebel yearns for a sense of justice and acts out due to a sense of moral obligation.

A revolutionary, on the other hand, creates a society often worse than the one he previously despised.

What does this have to do with anything? Nothing at all. It was just a terrific essay.

What I like about it the most is that Camus pissed off all his friends (including Sartre) with his last work. He repudiated everything they stood for. They would no longer even speak to him.

He paid a price for that essay.

My Mistake. It wasn't his last work. I think it was published in 51, and he died in the car crash in sixty. Oh, well. I told you I was no intellectual. But I still love the fact that he split with all his French commie friends.

[laogaiguk]

[cdninkorea]

What specifically pissed off Sartre about that essay? I'm guessing it was because Sartre was a Marxist, and revolution is a key component of Marxism? I'm guessing here, but you tell me please.

[Delirium's Brother]

I'd like an explanation of this too, because even though Sartre flirted with the French Communist and the Maoists, he never joined either and was very often critical of both. He might have incorporated some of Marx's critique of capitalism into his own work, but in fact he was most certainly an anarcho-syndicalist or a libertarian socialist (i.e. an anarchist interested in social justice issues). That seems to fit nicely with Camus' notion of a rebel. He was definitey not a Communist (although you never said this, I think you are implying it. Forgive me if I'm wrong about your intent). Giving up his freedom to the state? That would be a rejection of everything he stood for philosophically. He was always suspicious of authority (especially the authority of the church and the state, marxist or otherwise). He was after all the father of Existentialism, and the first move in that philosophical tradition is to deny any higher (or hierarchical) authority or meaning. So please explain, you've peaked my interest.


I can't believe I let you suck me in with one of your troll-posts. Arghh

[The Great Toad]

Wow u boyos are reel smarter than most plebs they done never red them Camus. But way back I did 2. Anyhow the thang bout it is that I cana do read THe Myth of (cant spel his name it's the frustratated Rock Man) S. Ok well the thing was is I kept grtting lost because he kept bringing up points some other writr wrote and I had no idea about the other guys except maybe the Ala cart the I think therefore... guy.

However as to the rebel thing you can start with the curse of England who kilt their Lawful ruler King Charles then as maybe Devine judgemnt the eveil colinies usurped under the evil Americen founding fatheres who were greedy and did not want to pay taxes. Anyhow the point is nearly every country is founded on rebels so it stands to reason that none of them are legit. THerefore I have decided to overthrow them all and declare myself the Philospher King.

Also I dona like any pinko commes they were all a lot of drunks too. Stalin had that cool guy Gogal kilt along with most everybody else he knew... Show me an evil leader who did not drink - mmm maybe the twister Dali live-in-the- best-hotels-i'm-perfect-Lameo. I may take a job in the USA for 40+ k teachin but if I do tteach here again u can be assured I won't brain washj none of ma kids into thinkin like a lot of the empty heds here wow i am smart

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