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ajuma



Joined: 18 Feb 2003
Location: Anywere but Seoul!!

PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 5:27 pm    Post subject: 2 computers, 1 internet connection Reply with quote

I did a search...with the usual results Rolling Eyes .

What is the best/easiest/cheapest way to connect 2 computers to 1 internet connection? I've read about broadband routers, but they seem pretty pricey...at least in the States. Anyone buy one in Korea?
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tweeterdj



Joined: 21 Oct 2005
Location: Gwangju

PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you want to have wireless connection, you need a wireless router, plain and simple. if you don't need wireless, you can get a wired router, which are usually cheaper than wireless. the only problem i've had with my korean router is that the setup page is all in korean, so it's taken me a while to figure things out. other than that, it's a good solution.
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ajuma



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok...where can I get a wired router? And about how much are they? I don't want/need wireless.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 6:36 pm    Post subject: Re: 2 computers, 1 internet connection Reply with quote

ajuma wrote:
I did a search...with the usual results Rolling Eyes .

What is the best/easiest/cheapest way to connect 2 computers to 1 internet connection? I've read about broadband routers, but they seem pretty pricey...at least in the States. Anyone buy one in Korea?


If you just have 2 computers, the easiest way is put a 2nd LAN card in the first computer and use internet sharing and a cable to the 2nd computer.

Cost is about w10,000 + the cost of the cable between the 2 computers and takes about 15 minutes to set up (including the card installation).
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laogaiguk



Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea

PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 9:00 pm    Post subject: Re: 2 computers, 1 internet connection Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
ajuma wrote:
I did a search...with the usual results Rolling Eyes .

What is the best/easiest/cheapest way to connect 2 computers to 1 internet connection? I've read about broadband routers, but they seem pretty pricey...at least in the States. Anyone buy one in Korea?


If you just have 2 computers, the easiest way is put a 2nd LAN card in the first computer and use internet sharing and a cable to the 2nd computer.

Cost is about w10,000 + the cost of the cable between the 2 computers and takes about 15 minutes to set up (including the card installation).


This is definitely the cheapest and easiest way. For what you are saying, this sounds like the best option. Are they in the same room?
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ajuma



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, same room. What kind of cable, and what port(s) do I hook it up to?

One is my new computer, and the other is my old one. They're both already set up to accept the internet service that I have.
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laogaiguk



Joined: 06 Dec 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ajuma wrote:
Yep, same room. What kind of cable, and what port(s) do I hook it up to?


The place you plug it into now is called a LAN card (or network card). You need to buy another one of these and put it into the computer. This is easy, so don't worry (others might tell you which LAN card to buy, but just a cheap one will do). You also need a cable, the exact same as what goes from your internet modem into your computer now.

Then, have the internet go into one of the LAN cards, and come out of the other (then going into your second computer). Then there is just a text box somewhere you check that shares the internet between them. I don't have time to go into detail, but here...

Instructions on how to do it with Windows XP
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ajuma wrote:
Yep, same room. What kind of cable, and what port(s) do I hook it up to?

One is my new computer, and the other is my old one. They're both already set up to accept the internet service that I have.


OK... step by step.

I have to assume that at least one of them is a desktop. If they are both laptops them you may have some minor problems finding/installing a 2nd LAN card (they are more expensive than for a desktop).

1. Get another LAN card installed into your desktop. Now it has 2 of them. One will be your internet connection and the other will be your shared connection.

2. Get a LAN cable from your local computer guy or the computer department at your favorite department store. They come in lengths from 2 - 25 meters.

3. Plug your desktop into the internet.

4. Plug the 2nd computer into the first with the LAN cable.
a. plug the cable into your 2nd computer
b. plug the cable into your desktop (via the 2nd LAN card).

5. Go to the control panel on the desktop.

6. click network and internet connections.

7. click "setup or change your home or small office network.

8. follow the prompts. If you have a problem then holler.
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Demophobe



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A router is much easier than using ICS with XP. Plug and use with a router as opposed to installing a second card and configuring Windows. No, ICS isn't hard, but a router is dead simple and no need to open the computer or fiddle with LAN cards.
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ajuma



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ttompatz:

Thanks! BTW, both are desktops. I'll just take my computer down to my compter guy and he'll install the LAN card and I can get the cable from him. The routers he has are 40,000 and if I can do it this way for 15-20,000, I'd rather. He rarely charges me for service...he was a former student! (I must have given him an A+ Laughing )
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laogaiguk



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Demophobe wrote:
A router is much easier than using ICS with XP. Plug and use with a router as opposed to installing a second card and configuring Windows. No, ICS isn't hard, but a router is dead simple and no need to open the computer or fiddle with LAN cards.


While you are absolutely right Wink, having done tech help for a bit, you would be surprised how much harder it is when you through something new like a router (something most people have never even heard of) into the equation. I mean with people who don't really know computers.
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Demophobe



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, my router has 5 sockets. One called "internet" and 4 more labelled "1, 2, 3, 4". The main internet cable from the wall plugs into "internet" and the computers go in the other sockets, in any order. Plug the router into the wall for power, and that's it.

I am pretty savvy, but when I set up ICS on 2 comps at home, it took over an hour before it was working well. My router took 3 minutes. ICS is simple in theory, but when it comes to brass tacks, there is always a hitch. It is Windows, after all.

A router must surely be easier than installing a second LAN card and going through the configuration wizard. The bridge seems to be the wacky part of ICS...it seems buggy...or perhaps "finnicky" is the right word.

Heck...look at ttompatz instructions...far more complex than installing a router.

Router:

1. Open the box, take out the router, plug the power in.
2. Plug wall line into "internet" plug.
3. Plug computer LAN cables into the router - any socket - 1, 2, 3 or 4.

Fin.
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cheem



Joined: 18 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 3:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go to Yongsan and ask around for the D-Link DI-604. You shouldn't pay a won more than 23k; insist on that price. Bring it home, plug it in. You should be set up in less than 2 minutes.

The catch is if you do a lot of peer-to-peer downloading. Since the router acts as a firewall, you need to manually forward the ports your p2p clients use.
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ajuma



Joined: 18 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 3:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cheem wrote:

The catch is if you do a lot of peer-to-peer downloading. Since the router acts as a firewall, you need to manually forward the ports your p2p clients use.


How do I do that?
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cheem



Joined: 18 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 4:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ajuma wrote:
How do I do that?


You can accomplish this in the router's administration panel. Every router handles this differently but most can be accessed through the browser at http://192.168.0.1, for example.

Look for the port-forwarding/port-mapping/virtual server screen; it'll have a form with the following fields:

1. Name (any name to identify the rule)
2. (Private) IP (the IP of the computer in your network that you're forwarding to)
3. Port (the port that your p2p software is using; you can usually determine this in the software's preferences)
4. Protocol (TCP, UDP, or Both; just select "Both")

Add a rule for each p2p client you use.

Mind you, you don't have to forward your ports in order to use p2p. Most p2p systems like bittorrent, however, will cap your download speeds unless your computer is accessible by other peers.
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