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Should I send them my original degree????
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latinthrilla



Joined: 10 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 9:16 pm    Post subject: Should I send them my original degree???? Reply with quote

The contract negotiations went well. I like it. The school (private elementary) has a good rep. To process my application quickly (job starts march 1 and I'm in Canada) then want me to send them my degree along with other stuff. Should I send them my degree? Can notarized copies do the job instead? Help!
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UncleAlex



Joined: 04 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 10:04 pm    Post subject: Send Your Degree? Reply with quote

By no means send your original diploma to Korea from Canda.
Your prospective employer can apply for your E2 visa with a copy
of it along with copies of your original transcripts. Once the E2 visa
has been processed and approved, your employer should send you
the official papers from his end, which you take to the nearest Korean
Consulate in Canada, where the notarization process takes place. In
the meantime, contact the Korean Consulate for the latest information.
But don't give anyone in Korea your diploma. Cool
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No.
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princess



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: soul of Asia

PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 2:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, never ever do that.
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UncleAlex



Joined: 04 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 3:19 am    Post subject: N-0 Spells No Reply with quote

I should add that I'd be wary of an employer who would make that kind of
request. He should no better. I think he might be afraid that you will bail out
at the last minute before departure time, so with your diploma in his possession
he can use it as a bargaining chip to persuade you to reconsider. I'm afraid
to think what he might do with it if you remain steadfast in your decision to stay
home or pursue another job here. Cool
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Big Mac



Joined: 17 Sep 2005

PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 4:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought I was unusual for insisting on not sending my original degree. My employer requested it and I refused and got it notarized instead. He said that immigration was confused and said they had never seen a notarized degree before, but accepted it nonetheless.

In the history of my school though I was the only one who ever did this...every one else sent their original degree over and got it back when they arrived.

I still think it's not a very smart thing to do though.


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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 4:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can send them a notarized copy. I dunno, I thought that was more trouble than it was worth. If you're skeptical about them returning your degree before you've even taken the job, then you probably shouldn't be taking that job in the first place.
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Big Mac



Joined: 17 Sep 2005

PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mindmetoo wrote:
You can send them a notarized copy. I dunno, I thought that was more trouble than it was worth. If you're skeptical about them returning your degree before you've even taken the job, then you probably shouldn't be taking that job in the first place.


How can you fully trust someone you haven't even met before? In another country at that? And in an industry that doesn't have a particularly good reputation in the trust department?

I don't think it's more trouble than it's worth when it comes to a valuable document like a degree.
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Novernae



Joined: 02 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 5:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

First of all, it's just a piece of paper. You can simply order another copy from your university and have it in your hand in 3 days by courrier if something happens to it (I'm on my third).
Second, copies of degrees notarised by your university are no longer acceptable for the visa process. If it is notarised by a Korean consulate, it's fine. If not, it's not worth the paper it's written on to the immigration office (this is a recent change after the false degrees scandal).
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latinthrilla



Joined: 10 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 6:51 am    Post subject: Are they lying? Reply with quote

I wrote back and told them that I would send a notarized (by the Korean consulate) copy and the response was that the law has now changed because there were too many fake degrees going around. I'm going to call the consulate today but want to know if there is a current website somewhere with the official verdict on this isssue?
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Big Mac



Joined: 17 Sep 2005

PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would imagine that you'll get the official verdict from the Korean consulate. Let us know what they say.
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latinthrilla



Joined: 10 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:49 pm    Post subject: Consulate is little help Reply with quote

Ok, I contacted the Korean consulate in Toronto, the girl can barely speak English and wasn't much help. She did say that as far as she knew a notarized copy is ok. I then called the consulate in Ottawa and spoke with Matilda (613 244-5010), she spoke English well! As far as they know a notarized copy is perfectly fine. In fact there is no law about it, it is only a regulation. Apparently you can't find this information anywhere on the web, as far as they know.

The girl in Toronto told me to email [email protected] to get a written reply, so I did. No reply yet.

The notarized copy takes 1-2 days so if you are in a rush then it's faster to send your original degree. I think because the job starts on March 1, I may just take a chance and send them my degree. Yikes!
Am I nutz? I wish I could find the spell check feature on this thing Smile
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splok



Joined: 30 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
First of all, it's just a piece of paper. You can simply order another copy from your university and have it in your hand in 3 days by courrier if something happens to it (I'm on my third).


This may be true for you, but it isn't nessaceraly true for everyone. I went to my university in person and asked for a replacement (I thought it would be easier than getting notarized copies, since I'm a few hours from a consulate), and they looked very confused and told me that they didn't think it was possible. I imagine I could get one if I was completely insistant, but I don't think it would exactly be a quick and easy thing. Take that for whatever you think it's worth, but I just wanted to warn that it might not be as simple as calling your university up and asking for a new diploma in all cases.
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buster brown



Joined: 26 Aug 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I signed my uni-gwon contract in January, the coordinator insisted that my original diploma was necessary to process my visa. I politely requested that she call the immigration office and ask if my consulate-notarized copies would be sufficient. The following day she had backed off her insistence after immigration had said they would accept the copies. I just feel more comfortable keeping my diploma stored back in the States...I already had to replace it once and it was a real pain. Why take an unnecessary risk?
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Gman2000



Joined: 18 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 1:28 pm    Post subject: Similar Question Reply with quote

Hey Folks

Saw this string and thought it fell in my wheelhouse of a question. So, I have my diplomas, can I just call up/show up at the Korean Consulate and ask them to notarize them and they'll do it and understand what's up? (the Consulate is very close-by)
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