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After signed contract is sent, too late to change mind?

 
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dereklee003



Joined: 03 Jan 2009

PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 8:36 pm    Post subject: After signed contract is sent, too late to change mind? Reply with quote

Hypothetical situation: if i accept a job and send the signed contract along with my other papers needed, then while its in the mail (or even if they just received my contract etc), I find a better job and want to take it, is it too late?
Am I able to resubmit my documents to the better job for the visa process?
Would the company i changed my mind about be angry or would they send my documents back to me?

Again, purely hypothetical.
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ThingsComeAround



Joined: 07 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends on the person...

I suppose if they didn't actually pay out airfare you may be able to get out of it.. however there are vindictive Korean employers out there that would seek to harm you and your *possible* future employment
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where are your personal documents?
Where are YOU?
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polonius



Joined: 05 Jun 2004

PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really can't see the school paying to send your documents back to you, or even putting any time or effort into it. You will have wasted their time, and they will just want to move on. I would expect they just trash your documents.
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sojusucks



Joined: 31 May 2008

PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is illegal to have two simultaneous contracts.

As you haven't come here, you could tell your school that you found a better job and to trash your contract and not send away for your visa. However, this could blow up in your face.

Use your own judgement.
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moosehead



Joined: 05 May 2007

PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 6:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it also depends on how long ago you sent your docs and if they've been forwarded on to immi yet or not. if your visa app is being processed, it might not be possible to back out and accept another position in K.

to tell the truth, I've always wondered about this and don't recall ever seeing a thread about it.

if you really want to give it a shot go ahead and let us all know what happens!! Laughing
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yingwenlaoshi



Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Location: ... location, location!

PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are SOL. Enjoy your flight.
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johnny_larue



Joined: 09 May 2008

PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am not sure what happened with me, but I signed a contract and got out of it.

I got a job with a nameless Hogwan, and after I signed the contract and sent it off I then asked the Dave's ESL crowd what they thought of that school. I got three private messages from people telling me not to do it. One person said that they would have a hard time sleeping if they knew I would make the same mistake that they made.

As a result, when the school administrator called me, I lied and told them my father had recently had a stroke and that I needed to care for him. They never called me back after that.

Soon after that I got a job with a PS and I am very, very happy. I am generally against lying, but if it gets you out of a big jam it may be worth it.
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dereklee003



Joined: 03 Jan 2009

PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys. LIke i said it was hypothetical. I didnt do it and im not gonna do it. I was offered a job in seoul and turned it down, im holding out for one in Busan. Sajik maybe. anyone know about the area?
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yingwenlaoshi



Joined: 12 Feb 2007
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You wouldn't be in a good position if you had sent them your documents. Then you'd be pretty much SOL.
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Mdvl_lady50



Joined: 22 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've thought about this scenario in that I was offered simultaneous jobs. I took the one I thought best. After re-reading the contract I realized that no fridge was offered (what was up with that?). Only excuse was that we had a family emergency in that I had to help with my Dad who is failing (not an excuse at all). That being said, I emailed my little "fridge concern" to the recruiter and was told that indeed I had fridge, fully furnished kitchen with a rice cooker (that's kind of cool) and tons of pots, pans, utensils ad nauseum. Then they made it nice in that I have a loft studio of sorts. So we'll see what happens.
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Beebug



Joined: 19 Jan 2009
Location: In Transit

PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm in a similar (and not hypothetical) situation. I recently signed a contract with an LCI Kids Club only to read later after I thought I did adequate research that this is a horrible school to work for -- ridiculous overtime, video cameras in every classroom, shifty money dealings, etc. etc.

I've signed the contract and sent it in, but have not yet sent in any of my visa documents, except they do have a copy of my passports information page.

Should I just suck it up and resign myself to a miserable year, or can I say 'nevermind' to this school and find a job at another quickly. I just don't want to be blacklisted or flagged at immigration...

Any advice?
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ontheway



Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...

PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beebug wrote:
I'm in a similar (and not hypothetical) situation. I recently signed a contract with an LCI Kids Club only to read later after I thought I did adequate research that this is a horrible school to work for -- ridiculous overtime, video cameras in every classroom, shifty money dealings, etc. etc.

I've signed the contract and sent it in, but have not yet sent in any of my visa documents, except they do have a copy of my passports information page.

Should I just suck it up and resign myself to a miserable year, or can I say 'nevermind' to this school and find a job at another quickly. I just don't want to be blacklisted or flagged at immigration...

Any advice?



Look at your contract. Does it require 30 days notice to resign? Do you have 30 days yet (you should since your paperwork would still take about that long) before your beginning date? If so, just send a letter (email) stating that you wish to terminate the contract. Do it immediately. Don't send any more documents. No guilt. No problems. They can find a new teacher. You can find a new school.

Good luck.


PS. In your letter, don't complain or explain. Just terminate the contract. Keep it short and professional.
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Beebug



Joined: 19 Jan 2009
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks ontheway. There is actually only about 20 days until I am supposed to begin (the orientation at least). If I do send the letter, will I in any way be prevented from finding another job or getting a visa?
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ontheway



Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...

PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beebug wrote:
Thanks ontheway. There is actually only about 20 days until I am supposed to begin (the orientation at least). If I do send the letter, will I in any way be prevented from finding another job or getting a visa?



No. They cannot prevent you from getting another job. You might get some angry letters and phone calls though. If you're using a recruiter, you'll need to get a new one.

Sending your documents, processing, getting the E2, doing the interview (if this is your first time) and then actually traveling to Korea still sounds like more than 30 days. Or, did they want you to come before your E2 was issued?

In any case, send your letter right away.
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