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drumpounder

Joined: 20 Jun 2006
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 3:56 am Post subject: A Korea Free Zone??? |
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I teach freshmen and seniors in a Technical High School. There are 5 other english teachers at other schools nearby. It seems every time we go anywhere the conversation always centers on teaching, students griping and moaning, or amusing anecdotes about teaching and/or students. Or of course fellow Korean teachers or bosses.
I have thus declared my apartment a "Korea Free Zone". Everyone is welcome. There is only one rule. No talking about anything having to do with work or Korea in general. Everything else is fair game.
I spend enough time in school. I don't want to talk about it on my free time.
How do you all feel about this?  |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 4:04 am Post subject: |
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A: Hey, I once spent a year living as an ex-pat English teacher in South Korea.
B: Shut up. I don't want to hear about it.
A: But this is an experience all of us shared.
B: I said shut up about that. It's much more interesting to hear about the kegger after the hockey game in high school. Once I got soooo drunk...
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pegpig

Joined: 10 May 2005
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 11:11 am Post subject: |
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You're living/working in Korea and you don't want to talk about Korea or your students? That seems kinda hard to do. I always found it interesting to swap stories on the kids or what's happening in Korea. You are after all living there. Where are you now? Where am I?
<checks to see that he's still on Dave's ESL> |
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krats1976

Joined: 14 May 2003
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 11:33 am Post subject: |
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This reminds me of when I was driving tour buses in Alaska. We had a no-shop-talk rule then. We figured that we spent 60-80 hours a week working & didn't feel the need to bring it home.
I'm all for limiting shop-talk at home. It usually just turns into gossip, which I can't stand. Banning all discussion about Korea seems a bit extreme, though. |
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mishlert

Joined: 13 Mar 2003 Location: On the 3rd rock from the sun
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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| No talking about anything having to do with work or Korea in general. |
So, I saw this great film at Megabox and. . . opps. . . sorry, Megabox is in Korea  |
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crazylemongirl

Joined: 23 Mar 2003 Location: almost there...
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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| wanna stop talking about work then stop hanging around with teachers. Problem solved. |
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drumpounder

Joined: 20 Jun 2006
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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Please note it's only my sanctum sanctorum that shop talk is banned. Perhaps I wasn't clear. You can feel free to talk about a cool movie you saw in Daegu, or a great band etc. Just no school / student / co-teacher stories.
In previous incarnations I have rarely hung out with co-workers because they talk about work. That is difficult here. I don't quite live in a city. In fact I live on the outskirts of a very small town which is on the outskirts of a small town. There has to be more to life than what you do to earn your bread. Let's talk about that. I'm assuming we are all intelligent and multi faceted.  |
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SPINOZA
Joined: 10 Jun 2005 Location: $eoul
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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I know exactly where you're coming from, OP, but sometimes it's fun to talk about school, whether it be drunkenly ripping into a co-teacher, talking about a cool game you invented or cool student stories. It's a fun job, sometimes feels like a complete joke of a job, and inevitably I have things to say about it and so do my friends who have similar (or the same) jobs. I know loads of people who work for the same organization as me and it's good to have a natter about crap, get stuff off your chest, or perhaps even pay someone a compliment. All well and good.
But, as usual, it's the bores who ruin it for everyone. It's the people who have huge discussions about the whole education system in Korea - as though their insignificant, whiney opinion counts for anything! - that are the problem. Blimey, those folks are boring! It's not all or nothing for me here. |
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drumpounder

Joined: 20 Jun 2006
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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I know exactly where you're coming from, OP, but sometimes it's fun to talk about school, whether it be drunkenly ripping into a co-teacher, talking about a cool game you invented or cool student stories. It's a fun job, sometimes feels like a complete joke of a job, and inevitably I have things to say about it and so do my friends who have similar (or the same) jobs. I know loads of people who work for the same organization as me and it's good to have a natter about crap, get stuff off your chest, or perhaps even pay someone a compliment. All well and good.
But, as usual, it's the bores who ruin it for everyone. It's the people who have huge discussions about the whole education system in Korea - as though their insignificant, whiney opinion counts for anything! - that are the problem. Blimey, those folks are boring! It's not all or nothing for me here. |
Well said Spinoza. That is why I rarely hung out with flight attendants for the 10 years I did that job. All they did was b*tch about the passengers, or the ovens that didn't work, or a messy galley or a ....I hung with the pilots, at least they talked about cool stuff like plane crashes etc!!!
I have alot of airline stories that most people would be floored to hear!  |
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Qinella
Joined: 25 Feb 2005 Location: the crib
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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| I've hung out with various teachers in Korea, and almost never does the topic of work come up. I think it would be a little painful, too. That's what Dave's is for! Come bitsch about your boss or students here, and then talk about ways to convince girls to let you xyz when you're with your friends. |
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billybrobby

Joined: 09 Dec 2004
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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| there are, i think, some things going on in korea besides your work. |
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pocketfluff

Joined: 30 May 2006 Location: Washington, DC (school) and Los Angeles, CA (home)
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 9:20 pm Post subject: Re: A Korea Free Zone??? |
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I spend enough time in school. I don't want to talk about it on my free time.
How do you all feel about this?  |
It seems as if you do not enjoy your line of work.
I've observed this type of sentiment in a lot of people who don't enjoy what they do -- be it work, school, raising children (yes, I've met parents who do not like their children ).
I'm grad-school age; all my peers not seeking higher education are employed, and boy do they hate talking about their jobs. The few who absolutely love what they do for a living can't sing its praises enough.
Not only am I of grad-school age, I'm in grad school - law school, to be exact. In my experience, the miserable ones are the ones most likely to shoot down conversation about what they spend most of their time doing.
It's natural to talk about what you do during most of the day; those who repress such conversation are usually the ones who simply don't like doing it. |
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drumpounder

Joined: 20 Jun 2006
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 11:16 pm Post subject: Re: A Korea Free Zone??? |
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| drumpounder wrote: |
I spend enough time in school. I don't want to talk about it on my free time.
How do you all feel about this?  |
It seems as if you do not enjoy your line of work.
I've observed this type of sentiment in a lot of people who don't enjoy what they do -- be it work, school, raising children (yes, I've met parents who do not like their children ).
I'm grad-school age; all my peers not seeking higher education are employed, and boy do they hate talking about their jobs. The few who absolutely love what they do for a living can't sing its praises enough.
Not only am I of grad-school age, I'm in grad school - law school, to be exact. In my experience, the miserable ones are the ones most likely to shoot down conversation about what they spend most of their time doing.
It's natural to talk about what you do during most of the day; those who repress such conversation are usually the ones who simply don't like doing it. |
I agree with your statement there. I do like teaching, but not at my school. I'm not sure anyone would. Certainly none of the other 8 foreigners I know and associate with around here.
I don't think 22 hours a week constitutes 'most of my time'. In your experience miserable people crap on their livelihoods. How much experience is that? You are of grad school age and in grad school. How old is that. 25? When I was your age you were sitting on your mommy's floor in a diaper full of crap.
Experience is what gives you the ability to talk about other aspects of your life. Simply because you've got other life aspects to talk about.
Just what the world needs...another lawyer  |
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holeinthesky
Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Location: Sadang.
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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When I first arrived in Korea I lived in a little wee place called Changwon (anyone there?) I used to love going to the foreigners bar called IP but the novelty wore off after a few weeks when I realised most teachers would sit at the bar and complain about their contracts, their boss, the students, how much they hate Korea.....bla bla bla. Same old expression: if you're hating it that much, leave.
I craved real conversation. Philosophy, art, fishing, anything not related to the boring side of teaching in Korea!!
But then again, I do love hearing funny stories and anecdotes about culture shock/embarrassing situations/language misunderstandings etc. Those little moments that keep you going here, that make it all worth while.
I think it depends on the person doing the talking......an interesting person with a good story telling technique can make cross stitch sound exhilarating! |
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drumpounder

Joined: 20 Jun 2006
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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| holeinthesky wrote: |
When I first arrived in Korea I lived in a little wee place called Changwon (anyone there?) I used to love going to the foreigners bar called IP but the novelty wore off after a few weeks when I realised most teachers would sit at the bar and complain about their contracts, their boss, the students, how much they hate Korea.....bla bla bla. Same old expression: if you're hating it that much, leave.
I craved real conversation. Philosophy, art, fishing, anything not related to the boring side of teaching in Korea!!
But then again, I do love hearing funny stories and anecdotes about culture shock/embarrassing situations/language misunderstandings etc. Those little moments that keep you going here, that make it all worth while.
I think it depends on the person doing the talking......an interesting person with a good story telling technique can make cross stitch sound exhilarating! |
Very true. I couldn't agree more. I was at a bar in Changwon a couple of weeks ago, Eisen Brau I think. A Philippino band was playing. Three really hot girls singing. They were quite good and made me wish I lived in such a bustling metropolis. I'm about 40 minutes away. A couple of miles outside the outside of nowhere. |
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